Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CIBI-FM

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 00:49, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

CIBI-FM[edit]

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The station apparently never went to air; its authorization expired unbuilt. Recent consensus seems to be indicating that stations that never launched do not enjoy the presumption of notability assumed for established/operating stations — and as a Weatheradio Canada station, its notability may have been limited at best anyway. The article was actually redirected to Weatheradio Canada back in 2010, but an IP editor reverted that in 2015 — and only then was it ever noted in the article that the station never launched. Not sure if restoring the redirect is best or if the article should go entirely, hence this AfD. WCQuidditch 19:53, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch 19:54, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:25, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:25, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Station only existed "on paper" and did not actually broadcast. As such, article does not meet NMEDIA or GNG. - NeutralhomerTalk • 20:37 on August 14, 2016 (UTC)
  • Delete. Thanks for the catch; I missed this one in my recent batch of unlaunched never-wases, as I was concentrating on Category:Proposed radio stations and didn't go through other categories to scan for stragglers — as noted, this never actually launched, and therefore fails to have an "established broadcast history" as demanded by WP:NMEDIA. In general, individual weather radio transmitters should actually not be presumed individually notable, as they're notable only as an aspect of a larger topic (i.e. the overall national weather radio service operator) rather than as individual standalone topics — this discussion last year reaffirmed that these should all be merged into a single list of weather radio transmitters (either in the parent service's article or as a "List of..." spinoff) rather than existing as separate articles, per our rules about how to handle "stations" that exist only as a rebroadcaster of a larger service or network than as standalone originators of programming. I note that as of today that still hasn't actually happened in the US, and I just now dealt with redirecting the Canadian ones. And, in fact, there's a verifiability problem as to whether it really died unlaunched or not, as one very germane thing happened to Canadian weather radio transmitters between 2003 and now: they became exempt from having to have CRTC licenses at all because low-power and non-commercial, and thus now occupy a category very much like USian Part 15 stations. So the non-existence of a current CRTC license doesn't prove the non-existence of the transmitter in and of itself, but does make it essentially unverifiable regardless of whether it existed or not — so there's no value in keeping this as a redirect if we can't actually verify whether it exists or not. Bearcat (talk) 14:41, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.