Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruce Allpress

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Actualcpscm^{scrutinize, talk} 15:23, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce Allpress[edit]

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Article was delete via PROD in 2017, citing his lack of significant roles or reliable coverage, then restored in 2020 after his death. That alone does not merit notability per WP:NOTMEMORIAL and he did not really get much coverage from it anyway. He had no major roles from the time the article was first deleted until his death and the awards he won do not seem to meet notability requirements for actors. The Legendary Ranger (talk) 13:54, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The Feltex award seems to be the highest for TV actors in NZ, I think it's at notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:25, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and New Zealand. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:06, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The coverage of his death on Stuff [1] and The New Zealand Herald [2], New Zealand's two main news sources, makes it clear that he is notable. As the previous voter noted, the New Zealand Feltex Awards were the national television awards in New Zealand at the time he received actor of the year. His death also received coverage in other New Zealand publications not currently sourced in the article, and in The Independent (which refers to him having gained "international fame through his role as a blind piano tuner in Jane Campion’s Oscar-winning drama The Piano"). Definitely notable, but the article probably needs expansion to properly reflect that. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 22:15, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. A leading New Zealand television actor over several decades, as seen from his NZOnScreen bio. Won two Feltex best actor awards, the highest award in NZ TV at the time. Agree that the current state of the article doesn't do him justice, but if this guy isn't notable then we may as well all just pack up and go home. His obituary in Stuff describes him in the headline as an "Icon Kiwi actor", which is no hyperbole. Paora (talk) 00:14, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Two lengthy obituaries by Stuff and the NZH alone demonstrates that he is notable. Schwede 66 16:27, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
While it's weak based on the sources in the article, which are mostly obituaries, given the roles he's played, I believe that sources exist. We seem to have a bias against NZ topics, because it's one of the smaller and certainly most isolated of the significant English speaking nations. I'm tired of seeing NZ articles deleted not because they aren't notable, but because our editor base, consisting primarily of US and UK residents, aren't good at researching them. Lets Keep this one. Jacona (talk) 12:32, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.