Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brianna Knickerbocker (2nd nomination)

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 11:00, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Brianna Knickerbocker[edit]

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A similar article at this title was previously deleted, and this new article was tagged with WP:G4, but the source used in the new version post-dates that deletion discussion so I've declined the speedy tag and am nominating here for a new discussion. I can't find any indication that GNG or NACTOR are satisfied: I can find UGC fan-site coverage of the subject, but only passing mentions in RS. GirthSummit _(blether) 12:23, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per non, fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. --John B123 (talk) 15:56, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per non, fails WP:NACTOR -- Alexf^(talk) 10:48, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:BASIC due to insufficient sources and no indication of meeting WP:NACTOR. Beccaynr (talk) 12:55, 29 March 2021 (UTC) Striking !vote per Dream Focus comments below. Beccaynr (talk) 16:49, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per nom, for failing WP:NACTOR. It's not enough to show that a voice actor exists, they must be notable. The subject does not approach this bar. Ifnord (talk) 15:11, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Clicking the Google news search at the top of the AFD I find this https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=135490 where it says (2016) Won Staff Choice Award & People's Choice Award for Breakthrough Voice Actress of the Year at 4th Annual BTVA Anime Dub Awards So that's one notable award, I not sure about the other one. Meets the subject specific guidelines for voice actors found at WP:ENTERTAINER, #1. Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. Notice the roles that are bold are major/main characters in the notable anime she did voice work in. Dream Focus 16:19, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did not see that category listed on the article's page and while "multiple" is up to interpretation, I would contend she's only been the major character in very few productions. WP:TOOSOON, IMHO. Ifnord (talk) 02:44, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple means more than one, always has, always will. Been discussed many times in many places. Few is still multiple, it more than one. And the Too Soon essay is about someone only mentioned as being in something in the future, not that they have already been in plenty of things already. Dream Focus 03:15, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak Keep~~ Keep, per Dream Focus and Beccaynr, they appear to be notable. Link20XX (talk) 22:54, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:ENT, and because I redoubled my efforts to find sources, and have added references and information about additional works that were not previously included; she has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, [...] or other productions, including video games. It also seems relevant that so much of her filmography is linked to other Wikipedia articles - while her article is currently tagged as an orphan, I have been able to de-orphan it by bluelinking where her name already appears, and there is a lot more work to do. Beccaynr (talk) 20:24, 2 April 2021 (UTC) As I review and update the linked articles, it also appears that per WP:ENT, she has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following because she has been a featured guest of a variety of conventions, i.e. in 2019: Daisho Con, Setsucon, ColossalCon, and Youmacon, as well as SacAnime in 2020. Beccaynr (talk) 00:56, 3 April 2021 (UTC) And there appear to be additional conventions. Beccaynr (talk) 16:40, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not enough reliable and independent sources to justify an article at this time. Would support drafting the article. Most sources are only series announcements and fan sites. Esw01407 (talk) 14:10, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I think the Anime News Network articles are more than annoucements, because they help independently and reliably document her significant roles in multiple notable films and television shows; it also appears that additional sources documenting her prolific career WP:NEXIST based on the links to other Wikipedia articles, which have not yet all been incorporated into the article (I have made it about halfway through, and all of her works are not currently listed in her article); in addition, the subculture websites finding her worthy of notice help show she has a large fan base and provide further evidence of the significance of some of her roles, based on the how the writers highlight them, e.g. Animation for Adults, reporting on her award and one of her roles: "Breakthrough actress (both staff and fan pick) went to Brianna Knickerbocker (Durarara!! x2)," ConFreaks & Geeks, describing her as "a multi-talented entertainer who's best known as the English voice of Rem from Re:Zero: Starting Life in Another World. Brianna also has a starring role as Rin in the upcoming Catherine: Full Body on PlayStation 4, an enhanced version of 2011’s Catherine. She was recently a guest of honor at Animanga 2019 in Pomona, CA," and Culture of Gaming, "[...] Some of her roles Rin from Catherine: Full Body, Rita Bernal from Mobile Suit Gundam Narrative, Sakura & Charlotte from Fire Emblem Fates, and Filo from The Rising of Shield Hero. She has an impressive body of work and will be playing Ling Shenhua in Shenmue III next year. [...]." There is also this VoyageLA interview highlighting her music career. Beccaynr (talk) 16:12, 4 April 2021 (UTC) I've also found sources for her starring role in Carole & Tuesday, including from Monsters and Critics 1, and three reviews 2, 3, 4, as well as references for a recent video game where she voices a significant role from Inverse 5 and Yahoo!News 6, and a reference for a previous video game from GameSpot 7. Beccaynr (talk) 04:56, 9 April 2021 (UTC) I've continued to find sources on subculture (not fandom) websites, by searching her name and various works, including one from 2017 about two video games she voices, describing her as "a rising, shining star in the video game and anime voice acting community. Last year, she lent her voice to Fire Emblem Fates’ Princess Sakura and Charlotte. This year, she continues her exemplary work in Fire Emblem Heroes, where she reprises her role of Sakura and also voices Ninian and Est," and others noting the popularity of other works where she has had a significant role 1, 2, as well as a brief review of her work 3 in another significant role. Beccaynr (talk) 03:02, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Dream Focus. Looks to be somewhat notable. Elli (talk | contribs) 05:27, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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