Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brent R. Taylor

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The result was no consensus. Has enough sources to pass WP:GNG, but questions over whether they fall afoul of WP:NOTNEWS. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:24, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Brent R. Taylor[edit]

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Fails WP:NPOL. Mayor of a community under 20,000 and most of his media coverages derives from his military service and death. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 02:12, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, not notable for stand alone article, per GNG guidelines and per WP:Memorial & WP:NOTNEWS. Kierzek (talk) 03:12, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and delete (without redirect) brief two-or-three sentence mention to North Ogden, Utah. Buckshot06 (talk) 03:38, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. North Ogden is not large enough to make all of its mayors automatically notable just for existing, but the sourcing here is not demonstrating a compelling reason why he would be more notable than most other smalltown mayors. The media coverage shown here is entirely in the context of the circumstances of his death, not in the context of anything he accomplished as mayor, so it just makes him a WP:BIO1E — and even with the death coverage taken into account, the citations are still more than 50 per cent to primary sources, such as internal city memos and raw tables of election results, that aren't support for notability at all. Bearcat (talk) 18:05, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, he was a local but elected official and his death was covered by both national and international media. He was an elected official who was killed while in office, which rarely happens. Johndavies837 (talk) 18:18, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that he was killed, rather than dying of natural causes or in a vehicular accident like thousands of other politicians have been, is not in and of itself a reason why his death is more special than the deaths of other mayors who died in office. It still just makes him a WP:BIO1E, not a person who passes the ten year test for enduring significance. Bearcat (talk) 18:24, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. The cause of his death is exactly why it received international news coverage. If he died of natural causes or in a vehicular accident, it would not have received that level of news coverage. It's a notable case among U.S. service members killed in Afghanistan. That plus him being an elected official should be reason enough. Johndavies837 (talk) 18:44, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Enough to make him more than a BIO1E? No. Bearcat (talk) 01:32, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Brent Taylor was the first elected mayor in the State Of Utah to use an obscure law allowing an elected official to serve in active duty and temporarily resign his/her office during that deployment. He was also the first Elected Mayor to be killed in action during his elected term. Both historically significant in the history of the State of Utah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.191.0.95 (talk) 20:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There is this [1] January 2018 article from the Deseret News on Taylor's deployment. However I do not think that would be enough to make an article on him if he were still alive, and I don't really see it as adding to enough coverage to save the fact that this is basically news coverage of the death of a serving mayor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:55, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Do not delete this article, Brent and his extraordinary life are well worth saving and highlighting. His is some of the best blood spilled for our nation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.184.99.79 (talk) 07:24, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Does he pass NPOL? Probably not. Does he pass SOLDIER? No (Major, hasn't been awarded congressional medal at least yet). Does he pass GNG? Yes. We he have various local coverage on him being mayor (gnews prior to 2018). We have national level coverage - e.g. Washington Post, Washington Post2. We have continuing coverage in 2019 - [2][3]. Apparently a mayor/major dying in combat is a rare enough thing (and it doesn't take a big WP:BALL to assume various buildings/etc. will be named for him). The entire ensemble - rises up to WP:GNG. Icewhiz (talk) 17:29, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Buildings being named after a person isn't a notability criterion in NPOL either, so that possibility isn't relevant at all. Bearcat (talk) 17:19, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

NPOL is a SNG for presumed notability. This individual clearly meets WP:GNG per SIGCOV. Coverage of him as a mayor alone (of a 17k pop town) probably did not rise up to GNG (though it was not insignificant). The combination of the wide national coverage of his death, post-death coverage, and pre-death coverage as a mayor - rises up to GNG. He's also, quite clearly not a BIO1E (as he was covered both as a mayor and as a notable combat casulty). Icewhiz (talk) 17:26, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:SIGCOV.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:43, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep while he doesn't pass WP:NPOL he has enough WP:SIGCOV to pass notability standards. Best, GPL93 (talk) 20:15, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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