Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brandon Paris

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 00:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brandon Paris[edit]

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I was lead to this article from the COIN, and there are a ton of issues not least of which is the COI of the singer's wife maintaining this page and doing nothing else on Wikipedia. There is a lot of text to wade through but very little substance. Each claim is followed by a run of parentheses and wikilinks of actual famous people (Moka Only, Kreesha Turner, Snoop Dogg) and (State of Shock, Kelly Rowland, Daniel Powter, Marcy Playground) in the lede, for example. Also the creator has created Brandon Paris Band, Pocket Full of Holes, Say Goodbye (Brandon Paris Band song), Rewind and Start Again, Somebody to Hold and On My Own (Brandon Paris Band album) to form a small walled garden. I would expect that if the main article is deleted that the other parts of the garden will be trimmed but I'm sure a case could be made for the band and the related singles/albums but Bradon by himself does not meet the guidelines. Darrenhusted (talk) 13:40, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:10, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. If his songs charted, he's notable. This reliable source confirms a performance in New Brunswick, which would seem to imply passing the national tour criterion. This is a review of the second album in a reliable source. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 18:16, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Which would be a reason to keep the band articles, this individual bio is written like a hagiography. Darrenhusted (talk) 19:06, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 18:16, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - he is a charted and widely-toured musician, who has been in the news for his many misadventures, and it is not so badly written as a hagiography to be harmful. Please fix any problems yourself. Bearian (talk) 04:54, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - needs some brutal clean up but the subject is clearly notable enough for their own article. Smartse (talk) 14:03, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak keep~~Delete - Low on peacock words, relatively neutral, notable artist (lead of a widely toured band that's had a song in the Canadian Top 20). The COI and SPA problem are biggies, but in the whole constellation of issues none is individually bad enough to warrant a deletion. I think the bio is viable with some "brutal cleanup", like Smartse said. The rest of Reneelavigueur's walled garden could still use some hedge trimming though, as some of the songs with separate articles do not seem notable. Smocking (talk) 15:56, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bearcat is right. The footnote in WP:MUSIC clearly applies. Even without all the other problems that would warrant deletion. Smocking (talk) 00:14, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While he is reasonably notable, he isn't so notable as to require a separate article from the one on Brandon Paris Band, and WP:MUSICIAN explicitly spells out that proper Wikipedia practice is for musicians to have their own articles only if they can be demonstrated to be notable beyond their involvement in the band — otherwise the band gets the article and the individual members just get redirected to that. Redirect to Brandon Paris Band. Bearcat (talk) 23:11, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep AbbaIkea2010 (talk) 22:31, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.