Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bosch Baháʼí School

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The result was keep. Daniel (talk) 11:34, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bosch Baháʼí School[edit]

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Fails WP:ORG, WP:NSCHOOL - No significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Serv181920 (talk) 15:44, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Serv181920 (talk) 15:44, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 17:01, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 17:01, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

keep - note that historically it was preceded by the Geyserville school which was in the newspapers back to the 1920s so there should be a section or daughter article just on that. I'll add sources to the talk page. Lot's out there if one looks. Smkolins (talk) 19:39, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Easy keep - long history and well documented. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 20:57, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable as "one of three major centers of Baháʼí learning." I don't see why this should be deleted. 10:32, 12 January 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DmitriRomanovJr (talk • contribs)
Strong keep per reasoning above.--Bettydaisies (talk) 00:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Agree with comments from prior reviewers. Peter303x (talk) 01:36, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep notable, one of the major Baha'i schools in the US, with well-documented history. Tarikhejtemai (talk) 18:16, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Can anyone actually link any coverage of this school from independent reliable sources? I don't actually see any. — MarkH₂₁^talk 20:31, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reply - tons of newspaper articles on the talk page just starting. Smkolins (talk) 20:32, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Smkolins: Thanks, I didn't see that before. It's a long list without descriptions and all of the ones that I clicked on were just passing mentions (e.g. "Mrs. Zamzow taught young peoples' classes this year at the Baha'i summer school at Geyserville") rather than significant coverage (see WP:SIGCOV), but I didn't go through all of them. Could you just briefly list here a few that cover the school in more detail than just passing mentions? — MarkH₂₁^talk 21:04, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still collecting and I've not reviewed them but they mark the history of events from founding through additional buildings through when it was bought out by the government and the Baha'is opened another site at the present site and the beginning of events there. Some of the newspaper articles trace more of the history as such if I remember right. The point is that significant coverage includes actual events, actual people attending, actual programs of classes given, some financial events like budgets for building improvements, etc., not just "it was there". I have a collection of over 500 newspaper articles to sift through for various kinds of coverage. And of course when actually used these would be fleshed out citations. Smkolins (talk) 21:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Significant coverage is more than a brief statement that "program A was held at school X" or "teacher B taught at school X", which is all that I have seen so far from those links. The coverage needs to be about the school in detail. Until anyone can explicitly provide such sources, there is no guideline-based reason to keep the article. — MarkH₂₁^talk 21:22, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think a body of over 500 articles has much to say but there are some articles that are larger and profile the school in some depth as well as markers of major transitions. I've added a section in an attempt to sift through the more than 500 articles for larger ones. I'm also aware of a seperate collection I'll be reviewing/collecting next. Smkolins (talk) 12:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! — MarkH₂₁^talk 12:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Passes WP:NSCHOOL with significant coverage in local news sources (ideally there would be other types of sources, but this is probably enough), e.g.

— MarkH₂₁^talk 12:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to allow the improvements promised in the above discussion to materialise.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 04:34, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.