Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bobby Kerr (businessman)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Flowerparty^☀ 00:55, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bobby Kerr (businessman)[edit]

No real notability. Just a businessman. Bonewah (talk) 17:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He is the CEO of a very large Coffee company in Ireland. He was on the Irish version of Dragons' Den. He is very notable! CargoK ^user ^talk 17:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at wikipedia's criteria for notability, I believe it takes a bit more than being a businessman and appearing on a TV show to qualify. Bonewah (talk) 17:48, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep. Have you tried googling him? Irish Independent --can dle •wicke 17:50, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 17:55, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Yes, I have and Im unimpressed. What google hits do you think establishes notability? Also, if you have any reliable sources that deal with him in detail, why not add them to the article? Bonewah (talk) 17:59, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia does not have to be ready for distribution by tomorrow morning, it is an ongoing project. I was completely unaware this article existed before just now. Irish Examiner --can dle •wicke 18:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is his profile on Ireland's National broadcaster RTÉ. [1]. He is a lesser alternative of Peter Jones (entrepreneur), from Dragons' Den (UK). He was a judge on the show. If I create Dragons' Den (Ireland), can we keep? CargoK ^user ^talk 18:19, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You shouldn't have to create the show for him to be kept or deleted... whether DD exists yet or not is not a reason to delete... --can dle •wicke 19:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not notable; no assertion of notability (being a CEO and a dragon does not amount to notability). Fails WP:BIO. Johnuniq (talk) 03:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just another fact. There are over 50 outlets in Ireland of Insomnia Coffee. Just a fact. CargoK ^user ^talk 09:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

At Johnuniq: Despite several independent reliable sources from various newspapers? --can dle •wicke 15:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This one in particular is dedicated to his life... --can dle •wicke 15:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, please read WP:BIO – "notable" may be different from what you think. A business person is not notable because they are mentioned in the relevant pages of various newspapers. They are not notable because they are CEO, or that they run a successful business, or that they appear on TV. Johnuniq (talk) 12:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This reminds me of the time someone tried to delete "celebrity solicitor" Gerald Kean because... well, it's here anyway... --can dle •wicke 20:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Having substantial coverage in independent reliable sources, such as the Irish Independent, is precisely what WP:BIO asks for. I would suggest that Johnuniq read that guideline rather than tell others to do so. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:13, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The sources offerred above take the subject way over the notability bar. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, I replaced the RTE interview with the 'Independent' interview offered by candlewicke above, as it is independent of Kerr (RTE being the ones putting on the show) and deals with him in detail. Im leaning more towards a very weak keep, especially if we can find more reliable sources that cover this man in detail. Bonewah (talk) 13:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The sources are all out there. I had absolutely no bother finding them whatsoever. No sources in article is a reason to improve, not delete. --can dle •wicke 17:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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