Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Newmark

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Clear consensus to delete. If anyone who wants it userfied or moved to the incubator please leave a note on my talk page. Kevin (talk) 04:06, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Newmark[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:BIO. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:32, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Newmark has been an influential figure in Bronx politics for over two decades and has helped politicians in both parties such as former Councilman Michael DeMarco, Councilwoman Madeline Provenzano, Assemblyman Stephen B. Kaufman, Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr.--all Democrats--and State Senator John D. Calandra and State Senator Guy Velella--both Republicans--win election to office. Newmark has been a candidate numerous times as an independent Conservative and as a Republican.

Wikipedia has profiles of unsuccessful candidates for office as well as third party figures.Bronxpolwatcher (talk) 05:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Neutral. It's a little too early in this article's evolution for me to !vote yet (28 minutes from creation to AfD). To get me to want to keep the article, it will need to do two things
  1. Show how Newmark is influential in Bronx politics. What's his role? Does he run the machine from behind the scenes, give persuasive speeches, or just command a lot of respect from residents? All the article says right now is that he's run for office.
  2. Show that he's gotten significant coverage in reliable sources (see WP:GNG). Right now, the article cites zero sources.
As I said, I'm currently not making a recommendation one way or the other, though I'll make one in a few days. —C.Fred (talk) 05:55, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your opinion and desire to wait. My purpose was to create the stub article and expand it gradually, which I think will satisfy your two points. I may have started it, but it's not my article. Anyone with knowledge of the NYC/Bronx politics can contribute or someone who does research. Remember the best articles on Wikipedia--whatever they may be--began as a few sentences.Bronxpolwatcher (talk) 07:00, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Userfy. The article has obvious issues, first the lack of references, now the dubious independance and reliability of them. But we don't need to delete the article and scare off the editor. Userfying will allow them to continue work on the article, while keeping the mainspace clean until they've brought it up to snuff. - Mgm|(talk) 11:54, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If consensus is to delete the article, I would prefer it be moved to userspace rather than deleted outright. —C.Fred (talk) 15:56, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MuZemike 22:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Absence of secondary sources providing substantial coverage of Newmark. —C.Fred (talk) 22:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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