Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bikers for Trump

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 00:52, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bikers for Trump[edit]

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This seems to have been a "nine days wonder" that got a lot of mentions in the press right before the inauguration and then turned out not to be such a big deal after all. Pictures circulating on the internet a few weeks ago of thousands of bikers rallying on their way to Washington were actually pictures of other events from years past, some not even in the United States. There was bragging of 20,000 of them showing up but it seems only a small fraction of that number actually showed. I am not seeing any reporting on them since the inauguration, their importance seems to have been grossly exaggerated in the week before the inauguration. What coverage there is is pretty trivial and does not show real notability. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:19, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Beeblebrox's WP:SUSTAINED argument is a good one, but I think it's a bit premature. It's been less than 2 weeks since the inauguration. It will be interesting to see if Bikers for Trump sticks around and receives further coverage from the media down the road. I'd leave the notability tag on the article and revisit the issue in oh, I don't know, a year's time. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 17:28, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is a semi-official group of bikers who support Trump and does not appear to be a chartered organization or one which will endure for the long term. Serious questions also about notability. If not delete, then definitely merge with a broader articles about unofficial trump support groups. -O.R.^Comms 20:15, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per nominator and OberRanks Flow 234 (Nina) talk 21:58, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 23:30, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It is doubtful there will be any additional media coverage and they're loosely organized. -Lance (talk) 2:52, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Delete – It seems as if the argument is that the article could be notable at one point, but definitely not now. Carbrera (talk) 02:01, 2 February 2017 (UTC).[reply]

No, the argument is that the article clearly satisfies our general notability guideline, but that it's too early to tell whether that notability will be sustained. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 04:48, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or merge I created the article because it seemed notable that a large group - of the sort of people famous for violent misbehavior themselves (bikers) - would offer to counter illegal violence at a political protest. If the group itself is not notable, then perhaps we could merge the information about the planned, er, "defensive wall" (of meat) into whatever article Wikipedia might have about violent clashes between Trump supporters and Trump opponents (such as Inauguration_of_Donald_Trump#Protests_and_demonstrations. --Uncle Ed (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I do think they deliberately played up the charged word "bikers" which conjures up imagery of scary looking leather-clad bearded men on their choppers, ready to stomp some hippies. That's why they got all those press mentions before they actually showed up, but the reality turned out to be a lot of pudgy middle aged guys on touring bikes.. We actually had something similar happen right her in my town several years ago when it was chosen as the end point of a cross-country motorcycle rally. Everyone was talking about the "biker invasion" but when they started showing up, it was a lot of semi-retired suburban dudes who had the time and money to take a few weeks off and ride from Florida to Alaska, and now that they had done it they were very tired, for they did not smoke the meth all day and night after all. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:40, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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