Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bhupen Dalal

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The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 09:46, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bhupen Dalal[edit]

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highly promotional bio, minor notability at best DGG ( talk ) 01:28, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DGG: The subject is noted within India as one of the country's most well-known businessmen, with a business portfolio including the Bombay Stock Exchange-listed company, Food and Inns Ltd, and the country's current leading IPO publisher, Western Press. There are substantive and substantial primary and secondary sources that support this assertion. The citations within the article support all assertions, but are by no means exhaustive. In addition, Dalal is notable for being implicated in one of India's largest financial scandals, in a case that ran for more than 20 years. The article is no more promotional than that of other prominent Indian businessmen and entrepreneurs upon Wikipedia. As with other articles within the same categories, it details the subject's business career and achievements, as well as controversies. If it is the consensus that the entry is, in its current form, considered promotional rather than strictly informative, then the article can be amended with this guidance in mind rather than deleted outright. Gruntfuttock115 (talk) 08:56, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:30, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:30, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: passes WP:GNG. Any issues with the articles can be addressed by the community in due time. ChunnuBhai (talk) 14:50, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Found significant references that establishing Notability. CleanAmbassy (talk) 02:55, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:32, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I believe the current interest both in creating the article and a bit of recent news coverage is due to Scam 1992. However not every broker involved in the scam is automatically notable. There is a lot of trivial mentions in the news, but I couldn't find significant coverage in reliable sources. Also to note that both the companies he owns/heads are pretty small and not notable on their own. Food and Inns Ltd has a market cap of around 230 crores (~ 33 million USD) and Western Press (a private company) has an paid up capital of just 87 lakhs (~ 120k USD). Being in very niche business and having some notable clients does not make the company notable. The subject fails WP:GNG, WP:BIO and WP:NBUSINESSPERSON. The article is also written in very PROMO tone. CleanAmbassy, request you to share links to these significant references. Roller26 (talk) 05:41, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:40, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This irretrievably promotional article can't remain in the mainspace, and I was unable to identify a NPOV revision to restore.—S Marshall T/C 10:10, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Pamzeis (talk) 08:45, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As previously stated, I cannot see how the article is any different to that of many other Indian businessmen hosted, without dispute, upon Wikipedia. Neither can I clearly see why it does not confirm with NPOV, given that all information provided is clearly cited and that any commercial claims come from reputable third-party sources rather than the subject. A quick search online will suffice to demonstrate the subject's notability, and his notable connection to one of India's largest financial scandals in modern history. That being said, and again as previously stated, I would welcome constructive guidance on revising the article to be exactly inline with Wikipedia's policies, if the consensus is that it currently fails to do this. Gruntfuttock115 (talk) 18:35, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I checked the first 10 references, there is only one that is in-depth, the tenth one. There is lots of coverage, mostly related to the fraud, e.g. short paragraph in the Independent, similar one in Reuters. I found a financial analysis he completed for banking customers in Jstor, but there is very little on the man himself, hence the reason the article is stuffed with other types of non-suitable business sources. I don't see much to support WP:BIO, or WP:SIGCOV. The article is a BLP but reads like a business article. It is highly promotional, failing WP:PROMO and non-notable. scope_creep^Talk 08:52, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.