Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benzedrine in popular culture

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The result was redirect to History and culture of substituted amphetamines. Anything worth merging is still available from the history. Randykitty (talk) 21:58, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Benzedrine in popular culture[edit]

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Article consists of pop culture trivia which is largely only passing mentions of the drug. There is also some reliance on primary sources, such as citing the book itself for the drug's mention in fiction. I also don't think that Benzedrine doesn't have the same representation in media as something such as marijuana, which has a rich cultural impact. Waxworker (talk) 18:29, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:52, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The edit history is bizarre. This was originally our benzedrine article in 2004. It grew an "In popular culture" section twice, the first time being split off into Benzedrine in popular culture in 2007, which was then deleted alongside Amphetamine in popular culture (AfD discussion). The second time gradually became what we see today, with cargo cult encyclopaedia article writing overwhelming the original content about benzedrine. The article was as a consequence progressively renamed to history of Benzedrine and then to its own original sub-topic where it is today. The "History" section in 2021 is little changed from the full benzedrine article Special:Permalink/105768542 from 2007. And it was all because of Special:Diff/205323093. Uncle G (talk) 19:38, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And for what it is worth, here is what I would do if it were solely up to me: Since there's useful discussion on the talk page, both about duplication with amphetamine and about the laundry list of popular culture references, and since there isn't anything particularly useful in the redirect at benzedrine and its talk page, I would rename this back to its original location (without leaving a redirect) at benzedrine to retain the edit history, and redirect the thing to amphetamine as it started out and should have been re-redirected 17 years ago. Uncle G (talk) 04:44, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I recently re-organized the article because it was very poorly structured. It is still a mess of an article that was amassed over only the last six years by countless users and IP editors sporadically adding unsourced and insignificant allusions. It is clearly not the result of a focused examination to properly represent the pop culture landscape of Benzedrine. I agree with WaxWorker, Benzedrine had its place in culture but it was largely of passing mentions rather than a substantial and persisting element in creative works. Thus, I don't believe a proper article could even be developed. I too noticed the article's bizarre revision history. As such, Uncle G has sound reasoning and I support their above proposal to move the article back and then redirect it. Οἶδα (talk) 07:28, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to History and culture of substituted amphetamines, where this topic is sufficiently covered without a giant unsourced/primary sourced list of trivia. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 12:45, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.