Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bemowo Pictures

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was DELETE. —Larry V (talk | contribs) 23:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Bemowo Pictures

Bemowo Pictures (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) looks like Autobiography (see de:Diskussion:Bemowo Pictures we are quite well-known). On pl it has already been deleted (pl:Wikipedia:SDU/Bemowo Pictures); on de there is a deletion request. The article was put on several Wikipedias today. So it looks like spamming and advertising ... Sicherlich ^Post 21:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I think this article is a kind of spam. It was created in 5 or 6 wikipedias by 2 or 3 days ago. In the pt:wp (portuguese language, where I work) it was created by using automatic translation (and what a terrible translation) and now we are voting for deletion there also. Maybe we should be careful... many people think articles are ok because of the interwikis. Marcelobbr 10:22, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

I answered Marcelo at pt:wp and I have to answer here. Maybe my Portuguese is dramatic but I didn't use automatic translator - I hoped someone would improve it. Don't feel surprised that it's exactly the same at all wikipedias - I consider it absolutely normal. And... it has finally nothing in common with advertisements. We are a non-profit group so please don't make such allegations against us. Tom

so advertising is common in Wikipedia? (i think you have a wrong understanding of the concept) ...Sicherlich ^Post 20:29, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

did you understand what I wrote? It's common among The Commons not to catch the common knowledge but it looks common... etc. Tom

Hi, I know Bemowo Pictures and in my opinion this article is not an add at all. The group is developing very fast, they've got several intresting amateur movies and I see that they're getting better and better in this what they're doing. Good luck BP! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.24.238.52 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC) - sole contribution to Wikipedia at this point

• Very interesting - the initial article and every addition to it (except AfD tags and Categorizing) were written by someone with a single purpose account. The originator is User:Tomkowiak, who is apparently Rafal Tomkowiak, who made a "guest appearance" in the group's first production (thus has a serious conflict of interest problem here). The article is not sourced and does not assert any notability - borders on speedy territory. Very strong delete B.Wind 06:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Cross-wiki promotional spam. This promotional article is being spammed on several wikis simultaneously. Perpetrators and defenders of the article disclaim the possibility that what they are trying to do might not be in accord with encyclopedia policy and practice. A lack of interest in what is appropriate in the encyclopedia is not strong support for an article but a weakness. Key quotes, from wikipolicy articles which should be read by all who believe the article should be kept, are boxed here. Athænara ✉ 02:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC) [Note: Quotes unboxed & moved to Talk:Bemowo Pictures at 12:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC). –Æ. ]

So... what is to be considered here? B.Wind 03:49, 11 December 2006 (UTC) No longer applies as bold heading and two boxes have been removed.B.Wind 19:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

delete not because its commercial or promotion: it is sufficiently informative. It's simply not notable until they get wider distribution or get an award or some deia coverage. DGG 05:47, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

What is? If you're referring to the boxed quotations, they don't belong here at AfD as they are not articles. These are better served at MfD. B.Wind at 147.70.244.102 18:00, 11 December 2006 (UTC) (can't log in at work computer).

I boxed the quotes for Tomkowiak's and 83.24.238.52's attention because they seem to be unfamiliar with those policies. (It's not a format I'd use again—I don't like how it turned out, either.)

The AfD message has been removed from the article twice, in spite of the clear statement in the notice itself that it must not be removed until the discussion is closed. It was still in place as of the 17:44, 10 December 2006 (UTC) revision by Tomkowiak, but 83.24.173.200 removed it two minutes later. It was replaced two days later and removed again by 83.24.133.106 within one half hour. I restored it a few minutes ago. –Æ. ✉ 23:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Which article are you discussing here? I see no such link or article but two wikiboxes with boxed quotations, which are not articles. If it's dealing with the quotations, this is not the proper forum and process. If this is indeed the case, close debate as inappropriate and relist at WP:MfD instead. B.Wind 04:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

1. "Which article" (two links at top of this page) = Bemowo Pictures, which deserves deletion: After nearly a week, it still has no defenders other than those directly involved in pushing it and engaging in avoidant vandalism against wiki policies; 2. "boxed quotations" from wiki policy articles un-quoteboxed and moved to Talk:Bemowo Pictures. –Æ. ✉ 13:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification - the bold heading and the two boxed quotations gave the impression that the boxes were also up for deletion in a separate action. Now that they have been removed, the context is more clear. B.Wind 19:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

You can delete this article, it's your decision but please DO NOT make silly allegations of spamming and advertising ourselves here. We are a NON-PROFIT group and the only reason for why we do what we do is that smile on the faces of viewers. Before you decide to delete this article please visit our page and download the movie (direct link on the frontpage).

Rafal Tomkowiak (yes, the author of this article and the one who made a guest appearance blah blah blah... SO WHAT?!) Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.24.139.166 (talk • contribs) 18:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

• Read WP:COI and you'll have your answer. B.Wind 19:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Concluding the AfD process after five days:

"Articles listed here are debated for up to five days, after which the deletion process proceeds based on Wikipedia community consensus." (Source: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion.)

"Every day, the day page (i.e. [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/Year Month Day]]) more than five days old should be moved here. The decision to keep or delete a page is to be implemented only after this move has been performed." (Source: Wikipedia:Deletion process#Articles for deletion page.)

This AfD discussion is now in its seventh day. –Æ. ✉ 20:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.