Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Behlol Khel

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The result was delete. Mojo Hand (talk) 14:41, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Behlol Khel[edit]

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I note lots of articles for what appear to be Indian or (as here) Pakistani clans, subclans, families, ..., Like in this case, the actual subject is hard to discern, never mind its notability. This appears to be a family, a subclan, living manly (or traditionally) in one hamlet. Nothing can be found (by me) online about them.

There are probably hundreds of these articles, and some serious effort may be needed to clean them up, but let's start with this one. Have I missed the good sources about this, or is this truly completely lacking any notability? Fram (talk) 13:33, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:13, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:13, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I don't know why I thought digging into this would be a good idea... Gandapur is the tribe involved here. It is almost certainly notable, although like many of these articles, what we have on the topic is pretty wretched. Like other tribes, the Gandapur are subdivided further. Late-19th and early-20th century writers divvied the Gandapur up into nallahs (literally "valleys", cf. nullah, in the sense of "people living in each valley"). There are supposedly six of these, according to what sources I could find. I utterly failed to find a complete list, but two of them are the Brahimzai and Hamranzai (the five lines of descent listed at Gandapur#Origin legend might be five of these six, with a different spelling convention). These are almost certainly not notable independently, but probably would deserve treatment in a better article on the Gandapur. The topic of the article at hand, however, is evidently a subdivision of that; this level of tribal structure is represented by (most of the entries in) the long list currently at Gandapur#Sub-tribes. These, as far as I can tell, are almost certainly not notable for stand-alone articles, and I am dubious about whether they should be covered in the article for their parent tribe. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:45, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ridgway, Richard Thomas Incledon (1997) [1910]. Ahmed, Malik Munir (ed.). Pashtoons: history, culture & traditions (2nd ed.). Sales and Service. p. 86.

Rose, H. A. (1997) [1911]. "Gandapur". A Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province: A–K, Volume 2 (Reprint ed.). Atlantic Publishing. p. 277–278.

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:58, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No references. From the article, its hard to tell what the subject even is. From the blogs, I gather it's a subclan that lives in Swat. Nothing encyclopedic here. Claimsworth (talk) 03:07, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.