Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bedros Kapamajian

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The result was keep. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 08:04, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bedros Kapamajian[edit]

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This article fails the WP:BASIC criteria of WP:Notability (people). There are three dubious sources in Turkish that are decades old, and one primary source over a century old (which cannot contribute to notability). The article has no reliable or intellectually independent sources. The subject of the article only seems to be mentioned in the context of Armenian Genocide denial. I searched both Google and Google Books. Almost all Google results were Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks. The top Google result that isn't a mirror or fork is a blog that denies the Armenian Genocide. I could not find a single Google Books source in English or any other language besides Turkish that even mentions Kapamajian. There are no sources that can WP:VERIFY the notability of this article, which is why it should be deleted. Étienne Dolet (talk) 20:42, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: He is Armenian and yet there is no article in Armenian Wikipedia about this person. This means he is not notable amongst Armenians and hence he is not notable. --Ernesztina (talk) 21:10, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing this out. (I do it, when necessary, as well.) But, of course, it's not acceptable as an argument in AfD discussions. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 13:57, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:48, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:49, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:49, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This text is about a historical subject, amply supported by sources, such as Ramadan Sonyel, Salahi (1993). Minorities and the destruction of the Ottoman Empire. Mazal Holocaust Collection. Ankara: Turkish Historical Society. p. 129. -The Gnome (talk) 13:57, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I don’t see how he fails notability at all. Google search indicates that there appear to be sources for him (which I haven’t read) here, here and here. Mccapra (talk) 04:49, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~SS49~ {talk} 23:07, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~SS49~ {talk} 23:42, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. has enough sources to be notable Alex-h (talk) 18:21, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Sources are now adequate and article is well constructed and references; also WP:PRESERVE and WP:NOTPAPER. Britishfinance (talk) 12:38, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – The sources listed above by Mccapra (here, here and here) are not reliable sources. Their content is culled from Wikipedia articles ("Please note that the content of this book primarily consists of articles available from Wikipedia or other free sources online"). Ultimately, Wikipedia is not a reliable source. See also: WP:CITOGEN and Circular reporting. This is not an !vote because I have not assessed the sources in the article at this time. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:16, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You’re right. I should have spotted that. Mccapra (talk) 05:26, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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