Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Farthen Dûr

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 01:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Farthen Dûr

Alright, I'm going to be bold and list this article for deletion (my first ever afd), so please forgive me if my reasons are not valid.

That said, I believe this article is not notable (a fictional event in a recent adventure book, which can hardly be considered classic, or even notable among recent literature). It consists largely of speculation, and is written in a factual tone (I changed the first paragraph to make it obvious it was fictional). The only useful content could be integrated into some of the other numerous, numerous pages on the Inheritance Trilogy.

I'm done. --nkayesmith 08:33, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. This is a a major event in a major book, none of which is original research. It describes the event very well, and is definitely notable. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 10:36, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

• It may not be original research, but it is speculative, and will never be more than speculative ("we have reason to assume that the battle lasted into the morning"). Other 'notable' books have a page of events, not a page per event. (Events in the Wheel of Time series). Having said that, there are quite a few articles as notable (i.e. not notable) as this one...e.g. Patronus Charm, although Harry Potter is more notable than Eragon. --nkayesmith 00:38, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

• Um... Haven't I said before that all the content is from the book, and hence it cannot be speculative. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 11:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

• It also contains a lot of strictly speculative language:

"To wipe out the Varden and the Dwarves (perhaps only the Dwarves that opposed him)"

"From this description, it is safe to say that the Battle lasted a good deal into the morning."

"The Strength of the Urgals is unknown, but from a description in the book, they probably had 3 or 4 times the number of warriors that the Varden and Dwarves had."

Unencyclopedic language, and could easily be merged or redirected into an article about the book. Djcartwright 00:31, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:NOT, or merge into the article about the book. The article is nicely written, but I'm not seeing the topic as requiring an encyclopedia entry. William Pietri 22:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Recury 00:07, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. This level of detail is beyond fancruft. My Alt Account 01:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• delete per above, as much as I like the series. ~crazytales56297 - t-e 23:36, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

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