Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barbie in A Mermaid Tale

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There is evidence that this is a film that will be released in March 2010, and there are Wikipedia articles on other animated Barbie films, so it is likely that there may be an article on this topic at some point. However, for now, the consensus is that this particular article does not follow our guidelines. When the film is released, and reliable sources have written about it enough to establish the film's "notability" (as opposed to mere existence) it can be recreated. SilkTork *^YES! 23:13, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barbie in A Mermaid Tale[edit]

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Unsourced article for film that either will be or was released, depending on how you read it. Sources show a book by that name for January 2010, but nothing else. Article created by editor|Special:Contributions/Chistopher_John_P.K._Sacedor who has since disappeared. Article now defended by editor Special:Contributions/Bianca_Anne_Martins with curious relationship to creator and history of creating similar articles. SummerPhD (talk) 02:13, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A weak keep. The whole article needs to be rewritten from a neutral point of view and the speculation need to be cut out. But as the film apparently exists, we shouldn't delete the whole article. --DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 02:33, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I see nothing to indicate this movie does exist. The author who created it has done nothing else. Several minutes after it was created, another editor (in theory...) came along and created the image for the article and started defending the article on all fronts. The second editor's edits include adding media reception info for a completely different movie, copied from that article, with only the release date changed. I've been unable to find anything showing this as a released or planned film. I submit that the creator is a sock of the second editor and the article is a fiction. - SummerPhD (talk) 03:38, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No sources. If they show them, it's a keep. Otherwise delete. NativeForeigner (talk) 03:24, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. — Jujutacular ^T · C 05:44, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I found and added a ref to a cached page that shows the project is by Universal Home Videos, and several online fansites showing trailers. So okay... I can believe it's not a hoax. But how notable is Barbie stuff? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 10:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment You had to add the cached page for a reason. The page you were citing is user generated and the specific page is now gone from their site. Released Barbie movies seem to be notable enough. This one, though, is either entirely illusory, canceled or forthcoming but non-notable. There are no reliable sources, so Wikipedia should not have an article on it. - SummerPhD (talk) 18:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yup... a cached page. ~~Note that hoax or not, I did not opine a keep.~~ Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 23:16, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. First, this film hasn't even been released yet according to the article. So we're probably in WP:NFF territory. I'm not seeing significant coverage by reliable, third party sources. Merely existing doesn't make it notable. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - More support for the hoax theory: Until recently, the plot description for this supposed movie included this "Enjoy this brand new Barbie story and then use the stickers to retell it, or even create a story of your own!" Couple that with the only sources I can find being for a book by this name... - SummerPhD (talk) 01:58, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per SummerPhD. Upon reflection, if Barbie films are notable enough to get coverage, then this one's lack would seem indicative of it being either A) non-notable in the extreme, or B) a blatant hoax. Both are suitable reasons for deletion. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 01:08, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Not a hoax, it's listed on Amazon [1]. I think the main issue is notability, is it really worth an entry apart from publicising it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Perspeculum (talk • contribs) 00:59, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, I could not verify that this is a film. It seems to be one of those "Little Golden Books". Abductive (reasoning) 22:15, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the lack of reliable sources. While this film appears to exist (see this Google Books search), the lack of coverage means that the topic fails Wikipedia:Notability (films). Cunard (talk) 22:57, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.