Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barış Arduç

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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:16, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Barış Arduç[edit]

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Fails WP:NACTOR. Minor actor, mostly bit parts. Possibly WP:TOOSOON scope_creep (talk) 00:39, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 04:32, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 04:32, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 04:32, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 04:32, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. In the early television serials in which he acted, Arduç had indeed minor roles, as is to be expected from an actor in the beginning of their career. But in two of the three films in which he played (Deliha and Mutluluk Zamanı) he had main roles, as well in his most recent television serials, Racon: Ailem İçin and Kiralık Aşk. For his role as Ömer İplikçi he received an astounding array of awards, testifying to a level of recognition far beyond being a "minor actor". --Lambiam 19:07, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment What awards? If your going mention awards, you need to list them. Some awards tend to be more notable than others, and for every high end award, like the Oscars or the Bafta, there is 20, 30 or 50 minor awards. So lets quantify exactly what is the best award he has won. scope_creep (talk) 20:40, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The awards mentioned in the article, in the section Awards and recognition. --Lambiam 17:11, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Doing a translation of the 2015 and 2016. All the awards seem to be fairly minor, and indicative of an actor at the beginning of his career. scope_creep (talk) 20:58, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Best Actor (Series) (2 ×); Most Suitable Couple; Best Liked Series Actor; Inspiring Actor of the Year; Best Series Actor (3 ×); Best Actor (3 ×); Best Sequence Double; Best Advertising Film Awards; Best Youth Series Actor; Best Scolding Actor of the Year; Best Romantic and Comedy Series Actor; Most Ideal Couple; Best Comedy Series Actor; Most Spoken-of Man of the Year: I agree that these rewards, limited to Turkish film and television as they are, do not reach the level of importance of the Academy Awards or the BAFTA; still, it doesn't sound that minor to me. Several of these rewards were reported on in major Turkish newspapers with national circulation, such as Hürriyet and Milliyet, as well as in established magazines with wide circulation (the Turkish editions of Cosmopolitan [1] and GQ [2]). This also suggests they are not completely inconsequential. Disclaimer: I've never seen the actor on any screen; my understanding of the topic and assessments are purely based on the content of the article. --Lambiam 17:11, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The first is Best Series Actor and the GQ award is Mostly Spoken Man of the Year not best actor. There is coverage per WP:SIGCOV but I think it is a case of WP:TOOSOON. scope_creep (talk) 18:07, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't meeting WP:SIGCOV already sufficient to merit an article? WP:TOOSOON is about the situation when the topic does not meet any of the various notability criteria as set out by our guidelines. It is essentially a restatement of WP:CRYSTALBALL focusing specifically on entertainment topics. --Lambiam 21:40, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no evidence he has had multiple significant roles in notable productions. The source section seems much larger than it is since many of the sources are unreliable ones such as IMDb.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:01, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep has significant coverage in reliable sources so passes WP:GNG, also prominent roles although only one major TV series has an article so WP:NACTOR is not proven. Atlantic306 (talk) 15:46, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The film Sadece Sen also has an article, although it is a mere stub. On the Turkish Wikipedia it is a slightly more substantial article; see tr:Sadece Sen. --Lambiam 18:30, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- In that case he probably passes WP:NACTOR as well as WP:GNG, also has won numerous awards Atlantic306 (talk) 19:50, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - there's a lot to sort out here, and the Turkish text isn't helping, but for me, being on the cover of Turkey's Cosmopolitan[[3]], GQ [[4]] and Vogue[[5]] certainly demonstrates notability in Turkey. The other info - film and TV - will have to be sorted out by others more familiar with Turkish media. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 00:59, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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