Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balthazar (Perth restaurant)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to Emma Ferguson and Dan Morris#Balthazar. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:14, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Balthazar (Perth restaurant)[edit]

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I don't think we need to create restaurant articles based on 3 reviews, 2 of those being from Perth based publications. Fails WP:CORP. LibStar (talk) 05:34, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nominator - article fails WP:SIGCOV Jaguarnik (talk) 06:59, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. NYC Guru (talk) 09:07, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes WP:CORP with the sources now in the article. Alvaldi (talk) 10:10, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink, Business, and Australia. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:41, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I still don't think it passes WP:NCORP - it appears to be just a local restaurant as three of the five sources in the article fail WP:RESTAURANTREVIEW and the other two are local business news. SportingFlyer T·C 20:46, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Possible Merge to Emma_Ferguson_and_Dan_Morris#Balthazar Gjs238 (talk) 11:37, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Haven't assessed for notability, but that article is horribly promotional. SportingFlyer T·C 12:33, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Other restaurants by the same duo are also up for AfD and are also promotional. I don't think there's necessarily paid editing going on here but it's still odd. SportingFlyer T·C 14:45, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to consider the option of Merge which occurred with other restaurants associated with this couple.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:35, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -- the sources now in the article are more than sufficient to carry the burden of the GNG. It misses the point to say the sources are local. Metro Perth has 2.1 million people, roughly the same as Slovenia.Central and Adams (talk) 06:09, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's irrelevant if it has the same population as Slovenia. WP:AUD states "At least one regional, statewide, provincial, national, or international source is necessary." LibStar (talk) 06:16, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Perth is the capital of Western Australia. Calling any of these sources local is extraordinarily disingenuous. Central and Adams (talk) 06:27, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You don't need to remind me it's the capital, I know that already. Similarly Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aru (restaurant) got deleted on the basis of Melbourne coverage. And Melbourne is bigger than Perth. LibStar (talk) 06:31, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If only the fact that some random other AfD came out some way were a deletion rationale... Central and Adams (talk) 06:34, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cityfields, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Mafia (2nd nomination), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Mafia. Precedents have been set over several AfDs not just one random one. Perhaps you'll be asking for deletion review of these? LibStar (talk) 06:36, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, I trust the process, which is part of the reason I don't badger editors who !vote to keep articles I myself nominate for deletion. Central and Adams (talk) 06:39, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here's some more Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Apollo Inn, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kafeneion. LibStar (talk) 06:40, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Emma_Ferguson_and_Dan_Morris#Balthazar Gjs238 (talk) 15:21, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, satisfies the requirements of WP:GNG, deemonstrates significant coverage in multiple indepent secondary sources. Dan arndt (talk) 23:18, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:29, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:ORGSIG. A couple of passing mentions, only in local journals doesn't count as "notability". IncompA 08:36, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Emma_Ferguson_and_Dan_Morris#Balthazar Gjs238 (talk) 14:05, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as excessive fragmentation, i.e. an unnecessary SPINOFF. Failing that, keep, as the restuarant meets the GNG per sources identified. gidonb (talk) 20:38, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.