Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Azerbaijanis in the United Kingdom

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 01:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Azerbaijanis in the United Kingdom[edit]

No indication that Azerbaijanis in the United Kingdom are notable. No coverage in news sources, or on Google Scholar. 2001 UK Census recorded only 561 people born in Azerbaijan. No indication that they think of themselves as a group. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:50, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails notability due to a lack of reliable and independent sources with any significant coverage of the topic, and Wikipedia is not a directory for stubs on every combination of two countries. Edison (talk) 20:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment — should add List of British Azerbaijanis to the nomination, given the rationales already provided.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 22:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Azerbaijan-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related page, as suggested:

Comment I have actually managed to find quite a bit on Azerbaijanis in the UK, despite it being a very small community there is an article on Wikipedia about a newspaper set up by Azeris in the UK. I don't know if I can expand it enough to make it noteworthy, I would like opinions, but I totally agree that there is no need for a list of British Azerbaijanis when the list includes just one person. Stevvvv4444 (talk) 16:49, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Census is right as it is calculated by professionals. Also there are 15 000 Azeris in UK according to Azerbaijan.az, which is governmental site. User:NovaSkola (talk) 05:44, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the census is correct, then how can the 15,000 figure be too? Anyway, it's not just about numbers. I still don't see evidence of notability through coverage in reliable sources. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Census counts British Born Azeris not Azerbaijani population in UK. Deleting this topic would not achieve anything as soon mo:re reliable source going to available, somebody will still going to open same topic. User:NovaSkola 04:57, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's a very strange logic for not deleting the article. If reliable sources exist at a later date, then the article can be created, but it's no reason to have the article now when those sources don't yet exist. Cordless Larry (talk) 06:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, NovaSkola, yes the 2001 census recorded ethnicity but the figure for Azerbaijanis in the UK is Azerbaijani born people in the UK and doesn't count one single British born Azeri. That is why it is important to have alternate and more recent sources that include Azeris in the UK regardless of birthplace. Also like Cordless Larry stated, the group needs to be notable by more aspects than simply population size. I have already expanded the article from one sentence, and it would be helpful if you could make further additions or provide more sources, since it was your inital creation. Thanks Stevvvv4444 (talk) 21:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete due to lack of significant coverage. Stifle (talk) 10:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment How come you can delete this article, while allowing British Armenian article up there. In fact, their sources are also taken from 2001 census!--NovaSkola (talk) 23:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Please see WP:OTHERSTUFF. You are free to nominate that article for deletion if you wish. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:56, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Question is this supposed to be about citizens of the country Azerbaijan and their descendants, or any speakers of Azeri Turkish regardless of national origin? I notice a number of articles from Azerbaijan media which are referring to "South Azerbaijanis" (i.e. Iranian Azeris) in the UK, but the coverage seems to be mostly trivial or not exactly focused on the community itself:

Azerbaijanis living in UK picket BBC office
Azerbaijani school to be opened in Scotland
Children from Azerbaijani boarding schools can study in Great Britain
Second Azerbaijani school opened in London.

Thanks, cab (talk) 01:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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