Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Audio Playground

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The result was keep. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:56, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Audio Playground[edit]

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Semi-advertorialized article about a band whose claims to passing WP:NMUSIC are not properly sourced. This claims charting hits in Billboard's Canadian Hot 100 and Dance charts, but the source being cited to support them isn't actually Billboard -- it's an unreliable WP:BADCHART provider called Alphacharts, which is not accepted as a notability-conferring chart on Wikipedia, and the chart positions completely fail right across the board to verify on the real Billboard site. And beyond the falsified charting data, there's not a single reference being cited here at all for anything else. As always, it's not what an article says that determines whether it qualifies for inclusion or not, it's how well the article references what it says as true, and this isn't even trying to do that at all. Bearcat (talk) 23:51, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:55, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Dance-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:56, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:56, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:56, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The BADCHART claim can be easily debunked. Here for example the number 8 position proof on U.S. Dance Chart for "Shadows" on August 21, 2010 chart https://www.billboard.com/music/audio-playground/chart-history/dance-electronic-digital-song-sales/song/661950 Let's take #39 position for "Famous" on Canadian Hot 100 It is justified here https://www.billboard.com/music/audio-playground/chart-history/canadian-hot-100/song/702591 How about the hit "Emergency"? It charted on Canadian Hot 100 reference here https://www.billboard.com/music/audio-playground/chart-history/canadian-hot-100/song/742132 Charting for "(A Little) Respect" at #77 in Canadian Hot 100 Here is the reference https://www.billboard.com/music/audio-playground/chart-history/canadian-hot-100/song/621072 Their number 1 hit "Hands Up in the Air" was not only number 1 on U.S. Dance Club Chart but also stayed 13 weeks on that chart https://www.billboard.com/music/audio-playground/chart-history/dance-club-play-songs/song/809839 Their hit You Never Know made it to #5 on U.S. Dance Chart and stayed 12 weeks on the chart https://www.billboard.com/music/audio-playground/chart-history/dance-club-play-songs/song/776737 werldwayd (talk) 00:48, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ihave now added all the positions one by one linking to Billbiard I have also added references from more sources including from Journal de Montréal, Montreal's biggest selling daily as in here https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/07/03/de-gros-noms-pour-audio-playground werldwayd (talk) 01:38, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly why is it, then, that when I went to Billboard not an hour ago and typed "Audio Playground" in the exact same fucking search bar, exactly nothing turned up? Do you mean to claim that Billboard has some magical ability to only not work when I search for something, but work perfectly well for everybody else but me? And if those are true, then why aren't they in the article instead of Alphacharts, which most certainly is an inherently invalid badchart? Bearcat (talk) 01:35, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have done the homework and now you have justification of each and every position linked to the exact Billboard page. Canadian Billboard 100 is very mainstream and the best indication for chart notability in Canada, though I admit U.S. Dance Club Songs and U.S. Dance/Electronic Digital Song are more specialized charts. "Hands Up in the Air" is a number 1 for them. Please do check all my links now added. Sorry for that. You may have a point about alphacharts and acharts, they may not be admissable, but they are almost always very accurate in their claims of positions and personally I find them helpful as this case clearly conveys. werldwayd (talk) 01:42, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Like the nominator, I also could not find them through the Billboard website. And yet the links by werldwayd (talk) are irrefutable. My guess is the Billboard search engine is not perfect and can't always be relied on. And, yes, the problems with the article are there with the sourcing and my independent googling couldn't find anything beyond the usual promotion and online download type stuff. Still, per the multiple chart appearances criteria, the subject is notable. ShelbyMarion (talk) 13:57, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep For nom's future reference, when checking to see if something charted on Billboard, do a Google search for the artist name, the words "Billboard" and "chart" and the Billboard charting positions should be the first result, ie "Audio Playground" Billboard chart. I have no magical ability. --Oakshade (talk) 20:23, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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