Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Assassination threats against Donald Trump (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:55, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Assassination threats against Donald Trump[edit]

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Already deleted once Carl Fredrik 💌 📧 22:59, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I read through the old discussion, and I decided to rename the page to "Security threats against Donald Trump". Something like "Death threats against Donald Trump" could also work. I agree there haven't been any really notable assassination plots against him (that the public is aware of at least). I think the new page (and the text in the page was already geared more towards Trump's general security situation rather than specific assassination plots) should be kept, because I believe Trump's security situation is unique in several ways compared to past presidents; specifically, one way is that the feeling of "this man should be assassinated" and etc. is unprecedented in the American public, me thinks. Ethanbas (talk) 23:11, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: the name move was reversed since the AfD already started, woops. In that case, I think what we should do is move the page. -Ethanbas (talk) 23:13, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ethanbas, I reversed the move for two reasons: first, the minor point that the AFD had already started (and I had just finished updating the improper listing), and second, the precedent set by Assassination threats against George W. Bush and Assassination threats against Barack Obama. I'm not saying your !vote is invalid, I'm just explaining my actions. Primefac (talk) 23:19, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I knew the first reason. :P Ethanbas (talk) 23:35, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now. There have not been credible instances of someone saying that they'd kill President Trump (see Bush, Obama links above for "actual" threats). I'm not saying that this should be salted, but we need to at least have 2-3 reported attempts/plots before creating a vague page about "he increased security". Primefac (talk) 23:22, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:36, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:36, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:36, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It doesn't look like enough has changed since last time in terms of significant coverage of this concept broadly (the idea vs. coverage of specific threats we would be combining to create a bigger subject). I do agree with Ethanbas that Trump's approach to security has received quite a bit of coverage, and wouldn't be opposed to redirecting this title to that article should it be created (which is not an endorsement of that being a stand-alone article -- it probably fits in one of the other Trump-related articles -- but would be happy to assess that independently of this). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 23:42, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This really seems like an insignificant standalone entry. Couldn't this whole entry be summed up on the main President Donald Trump page? SalemXIII (talk) 17:32, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to main article and keep redirect open or Very Weak keep per the equivalent article about George W. Bush. It's probably going to have content eventually. if we do delete this one, then the GWB one probably should be merged too. The Obama one is lengthy enough to be a stand-alone. Montanabw^(talk) 23:57, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per all the above. Wikipedia is not a newspaper. AusLondonder (talk) 00:04, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - A list without contents. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:30, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - As per others above. Bondegezou (talk) 13:50, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep! - It can still be renamed to Trump's security or something similar, and as the assassination threats come in the future, they can get added to the article. Seriously though, isn't it notable when the average joe or when many notable celebrities like Madonna say they "want to f****** blow up the white house"? I think this article should be kept and expanded. -Ethanbas (talk) 20:17, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We don't create articles on the off chance that they might be expanded later (falls under WP:FUTURE #1). There are no credible assassination threats so far, so we don't need an article about them. As for his security - he went from having no security (pre-campaign) to having a ton of security (post-election); of course there are going to be changes in how he is defended. That information isn't encyclopedic, though. Primefac (talk) 21:59, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Someone obviously jumped the gun in creating this article. Wait until there have been enough credible assassination threats that we can write an article about it. Placeholder articles like this serve no purpose. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No specific threats described; put it on a draft space or sandbox if you wish. $ɱ$ (talk) · vbm · coi) 05:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No actual threats confirmed by reliable sources. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 23:59, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Per WP:CRYSTAL. When a notable threat occurs, then we can create this article. Twitbookspacetube (talk) 00:21, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per NOTNEWS DarjeelingTea (talk) 14:04, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no coverage in reliable sources of attempts against Mr. Trump. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:13, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Nothing to see here. — JFG ^talk 09:44, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Millions of nonnotable events cannot be combined into one notable one. Per above. WP:SNOW (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 10:31, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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