Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashton, California

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The result was Group nomination withdrawn. Some of these I will be nominating separately but it's clear that they cannot be deal with as a group. (non-admin closure) Mangoe (talk) 04:00, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ashton, California[edit]

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This is another group nomination of Lassen County "settlements" whose only sourcing is Durham's place names book, and whose only information (according to their articles) is that they were the names/sites of post offices. this blog has some more info on many if not most of them, and as a rule they are 4^th class post offices with no other information than dates and postmasters. These could be located almost anywhere, including in stores, train stations, and even residences, and their names tended to change when they were moved about, but they have names only because the postal system required them. They are not villages or towns and are not notable. Again, if there's more info on one that I've missed, it can be dropped from the nomination. Mangoe (talk) 16:21, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:27, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:27, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to Ashton, I am nominating the following for the same reasons:

Mangoe (talk) 16:53, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Keep it is difficult to do a bulk deletion because several questionable articles in the AfD can sour the whole nomination. I find the following 4 places to be notable, or at least I question their inclusion in the bulk nomination. I did not find that the other entries are notable, however I may have missed something, there were 17 entries to research. I have a newspaper account so i was able to look back to news from turn of the century, which is not represented in google search.

Edgemont California was populated and appears to be a recognized place

Here is an www article about the area, Used to be called Spoonville - name changed after they got a post office in 1913 (not really a ref)
This article shows that there were residents of this area in the Lowell Sun Massachusetts newspaper in 1969.
Here is an article, LA Times recognizes the place when reporting an earthquake in 2017.

Long Valley, Lassen County, California was once populated.

Populated place per Notice for publication in the Daily Nevada State Journal 1902
Here is an article about the railroad beginning at Long Valley in the Sacramento Daily Record Union 1885
looks like a cattle farmer lived there in the Reno Weekly Gazette And Stockman 1889.

Glade california (I am not sure about this one being notable)

One resident claimed to be from Glade california here is an article about the resident. in the Fowler Benton Review 1917.

Rayl, California

Apparently there was a Rayl Hotel in Rayl Ca which burned down according to the Chicago Daily National Hotel Reporter 1922
Carolyn Jorgenson lived there according to the Santa Ana Register 1920. Lightburst (talk) 18:28, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural keep - Ok, so I picked one place off this list--Datura--because I thought the name was unique and would be most likely to bring back some hits. I entered it into Google and the first book result (please note...THE FIRST RESULT!!!) says "A typical letter is from Tully DuVall of Datura, Lassen County". How can someone write a letter from a place no one lives in? A little farther down the page is this fellow writing a letter from the same non-existent community. Here is a blog about Datura that mentions some guy named William Henry Harrison Fuller who opened a store in Datura (I know, it's just a blog). So I Google the name "William Henry Harrison Fuller" and found this copy of the Lassen County Times that mentions Fuller and Datura. This NRHP nomination mentions a stage coach line from Susanville to Datura. I'm not saying Datura is notable; what I'm saying is I found this much stuff about the first place on the list I searched for in five minutes! At Centerville, California this same editor assured us "the only thing I am sure of is that this article needs to be deleted no matter what else gets done". The same at Sunnyslope, California. I'd be satisfied if the nominator just assured us they ran each of these places though Google before nominating them for deletion. This list is a gigantic and unnecessary make-work project. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:58, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/Redirect Cromwell and Rayl to Herlong, California as they are part of a succession of short-lived settlements on the same site [1][https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55699113/lassen-county-times/. –dlthewave ☎ 03:06, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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