Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashish Dabral

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The keep arguments here provide no evidence that this person passes Wikipedia's notability criteria. Kevin (talk) 11:12, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ashish Dabral[edit]

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This seems to be an autobio or CV, or at least a fan bio. I tried to find reliable sources to verify this information and show notability, but I could not find any mention of this individual. Fences&Windows 03:22, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. -- Fences&Windows 03:24, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not delete this article and do let us know what kind of reliable sources you need to keep it in Wikipedia. This is about a person who started his life from a basic village and is working for mankind through a NGO. We strongly recommend to keep this article on Wikipedia because we feel this article deserve it. References can be provided if required. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.184.190.95 (talk) 18:03, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Read WP:Reliable sources to see what we mean by 'reliable sources'. We want to see multiple newspaper articles, magazines, books or scholarly articles with a reputation for fact checking that have discussed Ashish Dabral's life and works in depth. Without this, we have no reason to believe that he is notable enough for an entry in an encyclopedia - Wikipedia is not a host for CVs or tributes to friends, but rather it makes record of people and topics that have received recognition and may be of historic interest. Fences&Windows 22:18, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Every source provided so far seems not to mention the guy, Google, Gnews do not give any source. Gbooks retrieves a book by the guy, and that's it. Nice guy, but not for a bio here. Even my inclusionism has a threshold. --Cyclopia ^talk 00:28, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We are not sure what kind of "real" avidence you are looking for. We have hunderds of example in Wikipedia where people do not have any reference but their descereption is available in WP. We can provide enough avidence/references about this person who is working for a noble cause and we are sure WP will help him to spread his noble efforts. If required, We can remove things looking like his biodata - i.e. his work profile etc. But still we strongly recommend him to be in WP. We don't mind if you delete him but trust our words, You will find him in WP sooner or later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.184.206.5 (talk) 02:59, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The point is that we need some reliable source. Is he discussed in a book? Has he been discussed in newspapers? This would greatly help your cause. --Cyclopia ^talk 13:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are a couple of newsletters, Magazines and journals where you can find him easily, unfortunately, these journals, Magazines are not available online presently. You can find an article about his works on OMKARESHWAR Temple (OMGOD) in 'Om Shanti Sandesha' June 2009 edition (published by OM Shanti Mandiram, Columbia, USA: A Non Government Organization) and if required we can provide scanned copy of the article in said journal. A couple of local newspapers acknowledge his work towards Indian Culture. His works are in primary phase so the references are limited, but there are references and this is the fact. If you believe whatever is present online is the only truth then please go ahead and delete this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 215.66.225.23 (talk) 17:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC) External Link: http://omshantimandiram.org/worthyhomepages.html[reply]

A charity organization newsletter? Sorry, but that's not nearly enough. It's not matter of "believe whatever is present online is the only truth", it's that we have no way to check otherwise. If you can link scans of reliable news sources (wide circulation newspapers, magazines etc.) talking about him, you're welcome -though we cannot guarantee it will be enough, for sure it helps. --Cyclopia ^talk 23:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We will provide link(s) for scanned newspapers/magazines shortly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.184.210.31 (talk) 05:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The biography is unsourced + even if all the facts were verifiable, it is not clear what makes the person WP:Notable as a student, NCC cadet, employee at various tech./engineering firms, or as a founder of an NGO that started in October 2009! Abecedare (talk) 04:35, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep seems you are confused, or you are not aware what you want to quote here, This article is about a person who studied in a small village in India and then participated India's Republic Day Parade, This is itself a big achievement for a person. He is awarded by Governor of the Uttar Pradesh State and Gen. Ved Prakesh Malik.

In the age of 26 he started a NGO and working for welfare of poor people and for the great Indian culture. It is easy to comment here but it takes a lot to achieve such things. Once again we recommend him for WP and will provide "evidence" as requested. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.160.241.41 (talk) 16:31, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, but it is you that are confused. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. The fact that this person had a personal big achievement is nice, but it doesn't make it automatically fit for an encyclopedia. We need sources, that's it. --Cyclopia ^talk 16:56, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There's a difference between noble and notable in the Wikipedia context. I haven't been able to find anything to show notability in English or Hindi. In Hindi, I found this web forum post, nothing else. -SpacemanSpiff 16:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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