Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arrow Leadership International Ministries

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The result was delete. Luna Santin 03:05, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arrow Leadership International Ministries[edit]

Not notable, about 500 google hits with a variety of name combinations, and basically an advertisement for a very limited interest local religious organization. · XP · 20:33, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete. The lack of a notable internet foot print doesn't, alone, make it NN. Still the article reads like an advertisment and there are no WP:RS or sources at all aside from their own website. NeoFreak 03:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as it stands it is a PR statement/advert Nigel ^(Talk) 12:20, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Non-profit organization (i.e. advertising not valid delete reason) that meets inclusion rules.--Tbeatty 17:31, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What inclusion rules does it satisfy exactly? · XP · 04:39, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Notability (organizations)--Tbeatty 05:04, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't seem to meet the third party requirements. · XP · 05:24, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Search for Carson Pue. He's on the board of World Vision Canada. --Tbeatty 05:30, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which makes Arrow Leadership International Ministries notable how...? Perhaps you should update the article with what you've found, or else it's due for deletion as it's 5+ days... · XP · 05:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so this person is president of the group the article covers. However, that does not make the group notable--perhaps this person, however, is. · XP · 05:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The person doesn't have an article. I don't think both articles would survive. But since this is the only one a merge and redirect of Carson Pue might be in order.--Tbeatty 05:38, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, but then it needs to be under the Carson Pue name as parent, and he also would need reliable sourcing to stand. This article can be userfied to your space by the closing admin post-deletion if you'd like to recreate it thus. · XP · 05:40, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I've taken out the advertising. Zamyatin 16:50, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be a pain, but it still doesn't meet the notability qualifiers. · XP · 19:00, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Completely unverified. No sources provided except their web page. If there is no verifiable information beyond what is on their web page, then this is simply an advertisement. Note, only 23 unique google hits for their full name, and a bunch of those are from Wikipedia clones. Worse even than Don Paul. Derex 03:44, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Deleteper nom and Derex--Peephole 00:25, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Deleteper nom --Bill.matthews 02:43, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.