Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Apollo Smile

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep , though this assumes the addition of more sources to the article. lifebaka (talk - contribs) 14:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apollo Smile[edit]

Non-notable individual known only to attendees of various fan 'cons'. No refs, links to apparently orphan website. This appears to be a neglected vanity or cruftisment article. Prod tag removed by an ip so here we are Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 18:52, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - barely notable but on the keep side of the notability bar. There is this review of her, and a minor bit here. -- Whpq (talk) 17:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not convinced - the first is a website and the second a student newspaper. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 21:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's additional coverage that is hidden behind pay walls. " Apollo Smile, a New York-based actress and singer, says another advantage of Internet celeb status is that it's easier to keep your integrity intact. ... " from [1] which appears to be part of an overall piece on internet celebrities. Taken in whole with the voice acting and whatnot, it scrapes by. -- Whpq (talk) 21:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions. -- Ned Scott 03:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - hardly notable... But with more sources... CindyAbout/T/P/C/ 03:24, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 23:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Restate Delete all the sources that have and can be dug up are not about her - she is mentioned in passing. This doesn't satisfy WP:BIO in my view. Added to this are my earlier comments. I suspect that the distinct lack of interest both in the article an in this AfD suggest lack of notability although that is just a comment rather than an argument. As a final note it does seem hard for somone to be an "internet celebrity" without a website. Ms Smile's no longer exists and according to the wayback macine stopped being updated in 2004. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 18:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - the lack of participation in the AFD is only indicative of the lack of participation in the AFD. I've seen AFDs relisted which have resulted in Keep, and I've seen AFDs relisted which have resulted in Delete. As for her website no longer being there, it is likely due to the fact that she is no longer promoting herself as the live action anime girl. But notability doesn't disapear over time so her current status is not relevant to notability. If you look at her activity in total, she scrapers by. There is coverage of her although a bit skimpy on her anime girl persona. As a musician, she has also had her song Thunderbox on the Days of Thunder soundtrack which arguably passes WP:MUSIC. So when taken in total, it clears the notability bar. Barely, but still above it rather than below it. -- Whpq (talk) 19:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.