Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-Assyrian sentiment

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Those asking for a straight delete claim that the title is WP:OR and the content is WP:SYNTH. This characterisation was not effectively challenged by anyone. As such, the title cannot be kept, even as a redirect. There were some calls for merge, but no particular consensus on where to. The article can be userfied on request for anyone who thinks they can do something with it. SpinningSpark 08:42, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Assyrian sentiment[edit]

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There is no such concept as "Anti-Assyrian sentiment". The text is between Original Research and Synthesis. Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 21:23, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As I have written in the article's talk page, I also doubt that the article's subject actually exists. However, I will wait until some editors more expert in the field give an opinion before voting. I think all of the content in the article is factually correct - the problem is with the grouping of that content into an article with this title. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 02:52, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Discrimination-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:20, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:21, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:21, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as OR. The article also relies too heavily on one source. While I acknowledge there may have been discrimination against Assyrians, there aren't enough sources to show that the topic itself is notable. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:41, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Rename (with mild restructure of lead) to Persecution of Assyrian Christians. The Ottoman Empire managed its religious minorities as a series of millets, where the head of the church was responsible for this people's behaviour. "Assyrian" here means the members of that millet, i.e. of that orthodox denomination. "Sentiment" is an unhelpful euphemism - Muslim persecution of Christians is usually, because of actions that have allegedly offended the sentiments of Muslims. Muslims seem hypersensitive to being offended. This article is at presnet a mere time-line, which I do not like, but it is certainly no rubbish; it may wlll need more citations, vut that applies to many articles. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:00, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But why can't all this just be included in a history of Assyrian Christians article (if it is not there already)? Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:03, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Peterkingiron, we have already invented, well others have invented the concept and we have made an article here on it, the Assyrian genocide. So that one covers much more than what is being speculated (OR and synthesis) here. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 19:20, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if victims of genocide consider the crime inflicted on them to be an "invented concept"? Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 18:55, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:51, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - As the nominator I may accept a redirect, if not a deletion is agreed upon, to History of the Assyrian people. There is almost(?) nothing (for me nothing) to merge, as all the article content is already there or in Assyrian Genocide. Thanks. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 15:42, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If the article title an content is OR and synthesis I doubt "Anti-Assyrian sentiment" is something people are liable to search for. So no need for a redirect, I think. I'd just like some editors who are expert in the field to look at the subject and decide. Is "Anti-Assyrian sentiment" a term that is in use anywhere, such as in academia? Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:52, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or redirect. The article is synthesis. The sources - where they exist - don't actually discuss "Anti-Assyrian Sentiment". bobrayner (talk) 23:58, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I second Chris Troutman in that it might be a valid topic for an article. However, it does need much better sourcing and a different focus, as the article currently synthesises several topics. CesareAngelotti (talk) 14:47, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and merge contents with existing articles on Assyrian genocide and Assyrian nationalism. About half the content of this article is already covered in the two existing articles. The new material can be used to improve them. Fiachra10003 (talk) 18:03, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.