Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Animal Rescue Foundation

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. A discussion on merging with Tony La Russa does need the article to be at AfD. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 12:03, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Animal Rescue Foundation[edit]

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Non-notable organization. No citations after 15 years as a wiki article, and my BEFORE search turned up only primary and non-RS sources. Normal Op (talk) 09:56, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. Normal Op (talk) 09:56, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Normal Op (talk) 09:56, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:00, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. (The article is also badged WP:DOGS and WP:CATS; I would have thought they would be included in the AfD alert.) William Harristalk 02:39, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@William Harris: I use Twinkle to start AfDs, and Twinkle doesn't seem to have 'dog' or 'cat' available, hence the 'animal' category. I'm not that experienced with the Delsort stuff, and in some cases I've tried adding wikiprojects but they're just not available. I have used Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Flat to search for other projects to add with Delsort, and there's no dog or cat there either. I have found, however, that if the Talk page has a wikiproject listed there, then an AfD will show up in each wikiproject's AfD lists the following day, when they have those on their project pages. If you know of another way and can tell me, I'm happy to know of it and will use it in the future. Normal Op (talk) 02:56, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea how it works, but you are correct that bot updates can take up to 24 hours to come into effect. Let us see what happens. William Harristalk 03:17, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it has now appeared on WP:DOGS. William Harristalk 01:43, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the sourcing is not enough to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:38, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to not being notable and the lack of sourcing.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 17:30, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep or merge to Tony La Russa. I made my a mistake in hastily closing this as delete, but it seems there is a lot of coverage as you look beyond paywalls. WSJ, a brief Oakland Tribune article called 'Contra Costa: Tony La Russa's Animal Rescue Foundation celebrates 25 years', profiles in various California-area newspapers, a Chicago Tribune profile (non-paywalled version: here), Sports Illustrated, Mercury News, LA Times and more. That's enough to meet GNG or nonprofit, imo. Best, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:25, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,

Salvio

14:17, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: As per above, there are references behind paywalls. Whiteguru (talk) 12:20, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep A notable NGO from California. The provided references are reliable. Priyanjali singh (talk) 13:28, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - the sources found by Eddie seem promising. Unclear if a merge would be better, but that can be proposed on the talk page. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 20:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Tony La Russa ~~Delete~~ I've checked out the references mentioned above and none meet the criteria for establishing notability. All rely exclusively on interviews with the founder with zero "Independent Content", failing WP:ORGIND. Also fails WP:NONPROFIT as it is a small organization with what looks like 7 employees. Topic fails GNG/WP:NCORP. (Edit: There isn't anything worthwhile to "merge" that isn't already in the Tony La Russa article already, so just a redirect is required) HighKing⁺⁺ 21:41, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

... which is exactly why a merge could be considered- because it’s primarily notable in the context of La Russa himself. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:55, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Eddie891, I've changed to redirect. I can't see anything worthwhile to "merge" that isn't already in the other article. HighKing⁺⁺ 10:18, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.