Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angker Batu (3rd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Legoktm (talk) 19:59, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Angker Batu[edit]

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Film has been tagged for notability since July 2021. Two AfDs have resulted in no consensus.

Can we come to a consensus this time and either delete the page, or prove it is notable enough to have an entry and have the notability tag removed? DonaldD23 talk to me 02:47, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and Indonesia. DonaldD23 talk to me 02:47, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Doesn't appear to have a notable cast and the sources needed for an article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:04, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
'Weak keep' as reviews were identified at the previous afds: Kapan Lagi, Detik, Curcol and John Tirayoh. Its a weak keep as I am not familiar with those websites, it would be helpful to have some analysis from Indonesian editors, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 01:07, 18 January 2023 (UTC) Changing to full Keep in view of Arsonal's comments below, Atlantic306 (talk) 20:08, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article is named incorrectly and should be moved to Angkerbatu. This film is notable as the second horror film by director Jose Poernomo [id], whose first film, Jelangkung (2001), was credited with reinvigorating the Indonesian horror genre. (This event is well-documented in Indonesian Cinema after the New Order: Going Mainstream, p. 93: "Jelangkung was not only a popular sensation, which set off an Indonesian horror revival, it also laid the groundwork for the new codes and conventions of the contemporary Indonesian genre." Other scholarly works and news sources also cover its impact.) However, unlike its predecessor, Angkerbatu was widely panned by critics and did not live up to the expectations set by Jelangkung. This is reflected in the review pointed out by Atlantic306 published in detik.com. (That site and KapanLagi are well-established online news platforms in Indonesia, whereas Curcol—the website of an individual named Cosa Aranda—and John Tirayoh are non-professional reviewers.) In a compilation published by Tempo on the Development of Contemporary Horror Films (in Indonesian), film critic Ekky Imanjaya notes that Angkerbatu was one of a "deluge" of horror films released in 2007. ("Film Indonesia bergenre horor benar-benar membanjiri bioskop Indonesia.") He notes that one redeeming quality of Angkerbatu was bringing back a horror film comic relief character named Bokir (formerly portrayed by the actor of the same name), which had been absent from Indonesian films since 2000. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 02:13, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:56, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per @Arsonal:'s reasoning above. I'm also thinking of WP:WORLDVIEW here. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 11:25, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.