Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angel (British band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. bd2412 T 13:20, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Angel (British band)[edit]

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This article is poorly sourced and has a lack of independent sources, but it's loaded with Original Research, so it fails WP:OR and WP:NMUSIC. It is a terribly written article with many opinions and unnecessary dialogue tags as if this article were a story, so it fails WP:V as well. There is no notability presented anywhere, so it fails all notability guidelines. Unless this article gets some drastic changes, it should be deleted A.S.A.P. Redditaddict6 9 08:48, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. It is very hard to search on this band given the generic name. I note that a user called @Kemp:, the same surname as the bass player, has edited the article. If so, he should give references such as magazine articles, books, newspaper articles, any chart placings here or on the talk page so that an uninvolved editor can update the page. The Billboard reference appears good; is there more? Otherwise it looks as if it should be edited down and merged into the page on The Sweet. Ross-c (talk) 12:10, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. GameInfirmary Talk 12:34, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. GameInfirmary Talk 12:34, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. GameInfirmary Talk 12:34, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Found some evidence that Mick Tucker and Andy Scott of The Sweet were credited as producers and songwriters for some records released by the band Angel ([1]) and there might be some more paper archive stuff on them that is not available online, such as the mention in Bravo Magazine from Germany. As someone knowledgeable on The Sweet, I do not doubt that any of the things claimed in this article really happened, but the band Angel seems to have never received much notice during their brief existence and even fewer people talk about them now. They're a historical curiosity loosely affiliated with The Sweet. The pages for Mick Tucker and Andy Scott can briefly mention that each produced a band called Angel back in the day. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:31, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - see Jörg Amtage und Matthias Müller präsentieren Alle Hits aus Deutschlands Charts 1954-2003 Think someone has inserted a large cut and paste from a blog, but pared back to sourced content the remaining content makes a perfectly acceptable stub on a minor, but sourced, band In ictu oculi (talk) 17:04, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Being poorly sourced does not make the subject non-notable, and being terribly written does not mean it fails verification. The band is not notable because they never got as far as releasing albums, had no significant commercial success, and don't appear to have received any significant coverage. There's nothing in the British Newspaper Archive, and the OCC website confirms they never had a UK hit. --Michig (talk) 08:04, 25 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz ^Humbug! 07:51, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Angel" is an impossible keyword to search. But there are some tantalizing hits, like an article tha tran in The Guardian in 2008: Our music team pick the songs or albums, old or new, they just cant turn off: Angel Little Boy Blue.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:14, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note that almost the entire article is a copyright violation, pasted from a website I fixed some of it but it's still almost entirely work from a separate source. Redditaddict6 9 23:27, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone support a WP:TNT or just to remove copyrighted material? Redditaddict6 9 00:32, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - signed to a major label and mentioned in Billboard. The original version of the article was an acceptable stub; ignore the copyvios that came later. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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