Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew E. Unsworth

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The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 12:10, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew E. Unsworth[edit]

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No indication of notability, he is one of a number of organists associated with the tabernacle. I could not find any recordings of note that feature him or any specific independent sources except for those closely associated with the church. Fails WP:MUSIC. Karst (talk) 16:02, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Can't see how this article would pass WP:GNG or WP:MUSIC. NickCT (talk) 18:47, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk to me 21:31, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk to me 21:35, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Unsworth actually had a career outside of the LDS Church, both as a University Professor (not at a LDS Church school) and playing for the Cathedral of the Madeleine (Catholic). He also has been published by, described in publications by, given lectures to, and received recognition from professional organist organizations; some of these have now been included in the article. The only two publications listed on the article that have a "close associat[ion] with the church" (and thereby cannot reasonably be used to establish notability), are the ones with URLs on the respective lds.org & ldschurchnewsarchive.com domains; all of the rest are independent of direct influence by the LDS Church, and are not published by them. ^—^Asterisk*^Splat^→ 23:40, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note that Unsworth was an Assistant Professor, which is considered to be an entry-level position; see Professors_in_the_United_States#Assistant_Professor. Karst (talk) 09:42, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - It seems clear to me that this article passes WP:GNG or WP:MUSIC. It has 11 distinctly different Reliable Sources, meeting the "Significant coverage" requirement, about this person. These sources cover both this musical career and his non-musical time as a Professor. I have no idea who he is, but it seems clear that the Newspapers do. It clearly meets WP:GNG.--- ARTEST4ECHO ^(talk) 15:46, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal - Move the biography to the List of Mormon Tabernacle Choir organists under its own heading. Karst (talk) 19:14, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This person is a church organist. The references are church newspapers and newsletters announcing functions at which he will play. There is the occasional bit of biographical information. There are no references in mainstream music sources. I cannot find notability here. LaMona (talk) 22:08, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:54, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -Fimatic ^{(talk | contribs)} 16:56, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I keep seeing people say "The references are church newspapers and newsletters announcing functions". I see "The Salt Lake Tribune", "The Daily Herald", "Intermountain Catholic", "American Organist Magazine", "Meridian Magazine", "The Tracker", "Watertown Daily Times", "St. George News", and "Wayne & Garfield County INSIDER" listed as references. NONE of these are "LDS church newspapers" owned by the LDS Church. While the Church News is used, it isn't the "Only" one. To make the claim that only "LDS church newspapers" reference him is clearly false. In my opinion, this person has has "Significant coverage" and qualifies under passes WP:GNG and WP:MUSIC.--- ARTEST4ECHO ^(talk) 20:40, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mr.Z-man 17:23, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are enough sources to show notability. AlbinoFerret 15:57, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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