Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andre Sokol

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The result was delete . No sources written primarily about Sokol are forthcoming—the text of the FT top story ([1]) has not been provided—though I am willing to reconsider if such sources are found. lifebaka++ 14:19, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Andre Sokol[edit]

Unreferenced; doesn't appear notable. Biruitorul ^Talk 18:46, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep: There are some sources: [2], [3],[4],[5], but not sure they are sufficient. – ukexpat (talk) 21:10, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm underwhelmed myself. The man clearly exists, is making good money, and has earned passing press mention. Still, no conclusive evidence of notability. (And it would help if the uploader had provided sources, but perhaps not surprisingly, the biography is his only contribution.) Biruitorul ^Talk 02:11, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, lifebaka (talk - contribs) 17:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The Reflist was missing from the article, so the references didn't show up. I think notability is established with the coverage of the transactions he has been involved with. --Eastmain (talk) 19:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Really? He just seems to be a middleman. Someone has to sign off on big checks, and of course his name gets in a few papers for that, but does it really confer encyclopedic calibre on him? Biruitorul ^Talk 22:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't just a case of signing the cheques. These are reports of the subject's achievements in negotiating these deals. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:09, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the sources are not as far as I can see about him. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 21:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete a few trivial mentions does not notability make. Most of the text is unsourced, and may not be verifiable. Ohconfucius (talk) 05:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - he is notable enough to be reported on in the business section of the Telegraph when he switches jobs, and is identified as a top story in the Financial Times when hired by Vodafone. -- Whpq (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all clear to me that the FT story is about Sokol if one reads the summary. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 21:31, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The headline page linked by Whpq says, "Top story: Andre Sokol (pictured), was hired to run Vodafone’s corporate finance department...". It seems pretty clear from that that the article is largely about Sokol. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:00, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Article as written, minor notability aside, fails Wikipedia:BLP. Needs many more cites and sources to prove statements. Anyone up for the challenge? Michael Q. Schmidt (talk) 22:13, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Someone once referred to an accountant as a "mental athlete". The skills involved with doing major deals and doing them properly are relatively rare, so the comparison with a top-level professional athlete has some basis. --Eastmain (talk) 23:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I see some shred of notability, but nothing that makes it pass WP:BLP. Simply put, Wikipedia is not a collection of every single businessman of minor importance. Trusilver 05:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The sources show that the subject was responsible for much of the expansion of one of the world's largest corporations in the years that he was there. That's far more than a "businessman of minor importance". Phil Bridger (talk) 09:09, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I'm French and I studied the case of Vodafone Group's acquisition of Mannesmann AG. It's clear that the man had a main importance in that sale. cbastie (talk) 11:16, 5 August 2008 (UTC)— cbastie (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

*Keep. He is clearly a very important financier and has led some enormous M&A transactions. Sources provided are sufficient for someone in finance, where sourcing is notably difficult given how secretive the finance world is. Paul Hoggins (talk) 13:29, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I have found it very difficult to research important people working in private equity and this kind of contribution would be helpful. Henry1970 (talk) 14:13, 5 August 2008 (UTC)— Henry1970 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Note to Admin: User:Henry1970 added the stricken KEEP signing it with a non-existent user of Paul Hoggins. -- Whpq (talk) 12:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.