Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/An Unearthly Child (pilot episode)

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The result was merge to An Unearthly Child . Black Kite (t) (c) 23:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An Unearthly Child (pilot episode)[edit]

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PROD declined. Fork of An Unearthly Child. Topic is sufficiently covered there. Most of the other text is copied verbatim from the TARDIS Index File (Wikia), and hence has no sources to speak of. — Edokter • Talk • 14:22, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

redirect to An Unearthly Child - minor differences between this and the broadcast version are enough for a section, but not an article in itself. This pilot was never even shown, so the notability is very low. Totnesmartin (talk) 18:43, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The pilot was broadcast, but 28 years later; see An Unearthly Child (pilot episode)#Story notes. I can add a ref for that if you like. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:18, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd agree, were it not that the BBC elected to headline one of their video & DVD releases with the fact that it contained this unaired pilot, so clearly (many years later) they felt the distinctions were "notable". 86.176.0.95 (talk) 09:03, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So it was broadcast once, and it was on a DVD...and that makes it notable? Does every single Doctor Who Confidential now become notable? "[T]hey felt the distinctions were "notable"." - or they felt it was a good sales gimmick. That doesn't confer notability. Totnesmartin (talk) 10:26, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

@86.176.0.95: the version on the VHS & DVD versions was not the same as the broadcast version - up to the entry into the TARDIS they are the same, but from that point different. This was because two recordings were made from that point on, and one "take" was used to make the broadcast version, the other "take" used for the VHS version. The DVD has both "takes", but only one of them is edited onto the first half.

@Totnesmartin: I'm not arguing for "keep", but putting right some incorrect assumptions. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:20, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I was thinking to merge into An Unearthly Child at first, as a section within the more obviously notable first episode article. However this is already quite a sizable article, with seeming justification to be so, so on the whole WP:UNDUE suggests that the best and most readable structure is as it is here, as two articles.

I wouldn't oppose a merge, but would strongly oppose a delete. The content here, piece by piece, is all pretty much worth saving. Dr Who is a pretty significant series and this episode is important, even if little known, in the history of broadcast sf programming. Keep vs. merge is a question of how best to lay out the encyc. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:15, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You should note that most of the content was copied from the TARDIS Index File, and has major sourcing issues. — Edokter • Talk • 13:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then that would be a copyvio problem and would best be cleaned up before looking at the question of deletion for the remainder. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:47, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:17, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:17, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.