Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amar Kanwal

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:05, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Amar Kanwal[edit]

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Deprodded by article creator (and subject?) Not notable by our standards. Despite all the refs that seem like "news" cites, they all appear to be user generated in one form or another. The PROD tag was removed with an objection to my inclusion of a blog claiming that Amar Kanwal has vastly inflated his prominence on social media, and I will not reproduce that link and its assertions here, since it is not a reliable source. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:18, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:20, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:22, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Entirely insignificant and promotional, the article never indicates his importance aside from his social media presence and a minor and insignificant job as "promotions manager" at a company. Considering he is only 17 therefore a minor, it's not surprising he hasn't achieved significant success. SwisterTwister talk 19:02, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, as I point out to him on his User talk page, there is no shame if he simply does not yet meet our notability criteria at this time. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:12, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here to shed some light towards the discussion to reach an appropriate resolution. User:Shawn in Montreal has contributed his understanding towards the topic which is greatly respected. He added the PROD tag on grounds of making reference to unsupported statements he found in a blog questioning the individual: Amar Kanwal social following to be "faked". I dismissed the tag after reviewing that the source Shawn had made reference to was a blog highlighting an opinion based thought (which had not been backed up by official sources)that made a claim that shawn took in deep consideration. Both Shawn and myself came to conclusion that his argument cannot be based on an unsupported claim. In respect Shawn has moved the conversation here for community discussion for deletion.

I myself am the major writer of this Wiki with other wiki members efforts: Bonnie, Dumbbot

I have knowledge about this topic as a competing Digital Marketer and it comes to my attention that this wiki establishes a large enough significance to be considered as a notable biography about this individual. With my post i hope to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

The notability of the topic stands establishing a significant Actor and Marketer whom is involved with other major individuals in the entertainment industry. The wiki:Amar_Kanwal itself addressed the importance and significance directly related to the topic with verifiable citations(with over the minimum of two). Each informational source has been referenced with the most applicable citation along with cross checking relevancy with general informative information findable.

Resources that go in hand to verifying his acting credibility. the most credible source on the web for actors is IMDB and the Biography their contains the editorial written biography of this individual and their is a statistical section that validates the work he has done in the Acting industry. In the Wiki it was mentioned he had an outbreak from YTV including a reference directly to YTV Which leads to the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpbJjoF42Dg where he appears from 0.34 and, a second addition to the FT. in another commercial. Wiki authors like myself never mentioned the coverage on every billboard in USA, Canada for TD Bank as i can only google an image of him on the poster, and TD Banks Testimonial(http://amarkanwal.com/index.php/about-me/item/66-tdbankposter)

Aside from that the contents of the wiki, it mentioned general references to things he done like coverage from NDTV. I agree with Shawn in regards to the second reference to chime fm radio and coverage seems like it can be deemed as an individual that cant be proven to be administrator of chime but, the reference has no notability to what it was providing a reference for and could have been added un neededly which with permissions i would or, another author will remove.

With regards to indication to the living person being a marketer the point of interest is his social standing at twitter, but not to exclude Facebook as well. As referring directly to a twitter page is not an sufficient enough to be strong support, many external social statistic based sites make pages for popular individuals and monster their activity to be able to rank them. In conclusion i see there is two references indicating his social popularity to be significant analyses by twitter counter and star count enough to be ranked and placed in references but without to further limit sources like:http://www.tweetrank.com.br/perfil/amarkanwal, http://favstar.fm/users/amarkanwal/recent, http://twtrland.com/profile/amarkanwal, http://topsy.com/twitter/amarkanwal and more statistic based sources monitoring his twitter handle based on popularity which includes almost everything statistical and activity based of his.

Also anyone who creates large amount of buzz on the web globally is listed on Trendsmap and similar to the other sources above they provide statistics but they monitor this account almost every minute of the day and capture all the activity and display when he is trending at that moment. a section of the site is dedicated to keeping track of all of his social buzz http://trendsmap.com/topic/@amarkanwal. It is fair to doubt or have thought provoking claims but, i still make reference to how his credibility is proven on twitter if not visibly looking at his progress. I demonstrated how each of the sources are relevant to each of the references, and i have given the best attempt to un-foil all the contents of the wiki and hope the community can come to an appropriate consensus and grant the Article dismissal of deletion because credibility, notability, and verification has been most appropriately established. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TorontoMovement (talk • contribs) 19:38, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

blocked sock of TorontoMovement, who is also now blocked. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 00:34, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

All three of you are not seeing the bigger picture. The point of Wikipedia is to provide information on someone thats done something notable. All three of you are basing it upon how big each little thing is on this page when it should be, what the end result is after doing all that that makes him significant. Breakdown: Amar Kanwal A.K.A Amar Singh is an Actor who gained enough publicity through majorly YTV fork it over contest that he topped social media on facebook and twitter>then he started working as a marketer with entertainement industry as a promoter and digital marketer> money he made from music artists(sources) and invested/put out an entertainemt venue(club) in toronto claiming he wants to move the industry towards toronto because he wants to promoter closer to home> He used his social power to make public appearances like NDTV but, desifest most recently. Bottom line is because of his social rankings he ranks higher then the average in: Acting, Marketing, Club Owner/Promoting

S.I.M if you can incorperate this information into the page it would make the Wiki Page more realistic and clear cut, it seems if you had these posts earlier it could have avoided a community discussion.

Faze Magazine- Issue 03: Owning Your Own Nightclub By: Robert P. http://www.faze.ca/issue03/owning_a_bar.html

Urban Asian Network: Exclusive interview Nick Pandya says ‘Be Prepared to say HOY!’ Amar Singh Speaks on Collaberation With Asian Artists and what kind of music is best to be marketed. By: Shruti May 22, 2012<http://urbanasian.com/events-gigs/2012/05/exclusive-interview-nick-pandya-says-be-prepared-to-say-hoy/>

Amar Singh Speaks Benifits of operating a nightclub from a marketing approach ehow.com/list_6870307_benefits-operating-nightclub_.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Howtoinfojohn (talk • contribs) 23:09, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

— Howtoinfojohn (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:20, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Being "significant social media presence on Twitter and Facebook" means nothing here. There is an IMDb entry but it gives no details of notable roles and reads like pure puffery. The references are not much use in terms of WP:RS - the chime one is somewhat incoherent into the bargain. Some day, maybe. But in the meantime it must be realised that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and not a directory or social networking where one's status may be inflated. Peridon (talk) 09:52, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Does not meet notability crieteria, referneces miss leading as their are no NDTV links and IMBD links are profile created by the author himself Shrikanthv (talk) 07:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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