Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alpha College of English

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. – ABCD ^e✉ 02:14, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alpha College of English[edit]

The article is spam! It is a commercial project, is not a university. DELETE. -- Tim User:Tim54

Delete Non-encyclopedic. Advertising. Ruby 02:12, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article needs to be cleaned up, but it there are 12,900 google hits and it seems to be an established college even though it is commercial.Delete per "wikipedia spams google" Dr Debug (Talk) 02:15, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete 12.900 hits? Spam (e.g. 106 hits alphacollege.com) or advertisement (e.g. http://www.studytoday.com/xx/general.asp?lang=cz&cities=100&id=335 etc.). Tim 02:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as no one seems to want to clean it up. -- Krash (Talk) 02:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I've cleaned it up (probably a waste of my 2 minutes, but hey). Poor quality writing isn't really a deletion criterion. -- Jonel | Speak 03:29, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Abstain -- Krash (Talk) 03:36, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Unencyclopedic spam. — Rebelguys2 ^talk 02:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Avi 02:47, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --HasNoClue 03:01, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Linked to from Dublin's official tourist site ([1]), member of the EAQUALS consortium ([2]), ISO 9001:2000-certified, not sure what search terms others are using, but this search: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=%22alpha+college+of+english%22+-wikipedia&btnG=Search gave me about 800 hits. -- Jonel | Speak 03:06, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete wow, 12,104 (!!!) google hits with wikipedia! without Wikipedia: 796 google hits only. is big spam. Tim 03:20, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Please put "Comment" not "Delete" in front of your comments once you've declared your initial delete. Turnstep 14:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Tim54. Royboycrashfan 03:26, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Ruby and Tim54. It reads like an advertisement. Notwithstanding, looking at their site, it sounds no more notable than the typical for-profit "educational institute" that advertises repeatedly during every commercial break during The Jerry Springer Show and Judge Hatchett. --Kinu 03:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - a german newspaper http://www.manager-magazin.de/koepfe/artikel/0,2828,263361,00.html writes o.alpha college and Haim Saban, many news in press, radio and television about alpha college: http://www.fremdsprachen.tv/17965.html or http://www.alpha4lingua.de Tim 04:33, 8 February 2006 (UTC) different companies with same name. Tim 05:02, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as nn advert.Blnguyen 05:37, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and cue the vikings. Just zis Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] 13:15, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless someone can rewrite it and provide sources as to why this place is notable, and credible. Elfguy 13:45, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Seems harmless and non-spammish as currently written. Turnstep 14:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Nominator's account seems to have been created for the sole purpose of setting up this AfD. No other edits in WP at all. Turnstep 14:38, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Spam. -- Death Eater Dan 19:44, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. The current version does not read like ad copy, the existence of the institution seems to be confirmed; see Wikipedia:Schools. Smerdis of Tlön 19:47, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not notable. Djegan 20:10, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete ad. Gateman1997 06:09, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
keep please this is not a spam now Yuckfoo 19:30, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Universities and colleges in Ireland? it is a joke, yes. Why is a commercial language school a university? that is a private school. The entry is a disadvantage of all other 1,000 language schools in dublin. Krestin 23:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete ad./per "wikipedia spams google" Krestin 23:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - does Wikipedia spam the Dublin tourist bureau as well? Visitdublin.com, 4th entry is this school. The school could hardly be called a university, but the city's tourist bureau found reason to list Alpha College of English as an educational institution in the city. -- Jonel | Speak 00:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment - Alpha College of English like others language schools in Dublin as well linked. It is a reason? Entry please: Centre of English Studies http://www.visitdublin.com/study/detail.asp?ID=208, Horner School Of English http://www.visitdublin.com/study/detail.asp?ID=567, Liffey Linguistics http://www.visitdublin.com/study/detail.asp?ID=1716, American College http://www.visitdublin.com/study/detail.asp?ID=34, Aspect ILA Dublin http://www.visitdublin.com/study/detail.asp?ID=62, Dorset College http://www.visitdublin.com/study/detail.asp?ID=1411, Dublin School of English http://www.visitdublin.com/study/detail.asp?ID=359, English in Dublin http://www.visitdublin.com/study/detail.asp?ID=1437, Griffith College Dublin http://www.visitdublin.com/study/detail.asp?ID=1559,...... and 200 others language schools in dublin, Entry please. Each company in dublin linked to from Dublin's official site. It is self-advertisement. Fact: 12.104 google hits with wikipedia and without wikipedia 796 only Krestin 15:50, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I respect the opinions of those who say the place isn't notable. However, it is easily verifiable and is no longer spam or advertising. That it's a "commercial project" does not make it unworthy of an article. That it has mention by independent sources is enough to convince me of the notability of the place. Also, the seeming creation of two accounts (Tim54 (talk · contribs) and Krestin (talk · contribs)) solely for the purpose of this AfD is troubling. -- Jonel | Speak 00:58, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Please put "Comment" not "Keep" in front of your comments. yes, my name is Tim Krestin, I've forgot my password Tim/Krestin Tim or Krestin 16:50, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
delete nn, advertising, as per many above Pete.Hurd 00:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.