Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allen Ratnayake

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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:25, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Allen Ratnayake[edit]

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Fails WP:NMUSIC, WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. The references cited are merely mentions in passing. Dan arndt (talk) 00:04, 5 July 2017 (UTC) Dan arndt (talk) 00:04, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletion discussions. Dan arndt (talk) 00:08, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Dan arndt (talk) 00:08, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

They passed his name mentioning because they assume his notability. Simple question, why didn't they forget him? Lkartlv (talk) 12:49, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lkartlv - notability means receiving significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. "Significant coverage" is more than a trivial mention or a mere mention in passing but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. Dan arndt (talk) 12:56, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dan arndt, In fact I agree with your opinion. But my point is mere coverage should not take as the main factor for a judgement of notability of something. It is just a single factor that we can consider of. But we have to realize that coverage is depended on some other factors too. If I spend about 2000 LKRs I can be notable person tomorrow :) We have to think of how someone's work has affected to the human society, why people even pass mentioning their names. Lkartlv (talk) 13:20, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lkartlv this is why WP has certain standards of proof to establish notability. At this stage there isn't enough evidence provided that meets those standards. Dan arndt (talk) 13:44, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For a reliable source to identify him as "one of the giants" carries some weight for a person active before the Internet. Dan Arndt, you described the general notability guidelines, not the entirety of what is held to constitute notability on Wikipedia. Largoplazo (talk) 14:07, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lkartlv, I regret to see such a comment by a wikipedian that does not make any sense. Lkartlv (talk) 14:29, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I hereby would like to mention my suggestions in brief.

1. The name 'Allen Ratnayake' is referred for a musical artist from Sri Lanka.

2. Many soundtracks recorded with his voice can be found online and Radio channels like Sri lanka broadcasting Corporation (SLBC) are broadcasting his songs as categorized as Sinhala Gramophone songs.

3. I have given some reliable sources to prove that the information in the article is true and correct.

4. One of the given sources has been challenged for its reliability. (Infolanka.com / Miyuru Gee)

5. There are three other sources can be found. The source which mentions the words "one of the giants" had originally been published in 2002. It can be verified by checking its date label and the url (http://archives.dailynews.lk/2002/09/09/fea10.html). The publisher is The Associated Newspapers of Ceylon Ltd (Daily News, Sri Lanka). The other source had been published in 1998 by Sunday Times, sri Lanka. The words "one of the giants" are not mentioned within that source (http://www.sundaytimes.lk/980104/plus6.html). The third source is Free Music Archive which is credited as an 'an interactive library of high-quality' on this wikipedia. I ask Largoplazo, do you seriously believe that some one had created those sources to carry some weight for a person active before the Internet? Lkartlv (talk) 15:17, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you asking whether I believe something I never said or implied that I believed? Largoplazo (talk) 16:03, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Largoplazo, Well, you've commented above that "For a reliable source to identify him as "one of the giants" carries some weight for a person active before the Internet". I'm asking you, is that as you believe it or an empty-headed lion talk that has nothing to do with this discussion? Please answer. Did you remove a section from this article titled "See also" under which three other articles published on this very Wikipedia (not external links) of some common categories were listed? if yes, why? Was it a destructive edit that carried some weight for a person active before the internet? Lkartlv (talk) 07:14, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My comment about "one of the giants" was the one thing I wrote that's in your favor, and now you're challenging me on it, which makes no sense. I also did not remove the See Also section, which the article's history confirms. Largoplazo (talk) 10:07, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, So Why 07:16, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:38, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.