Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alissa White-Gluz

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The result was merge to The Agonist. So Why 07:59, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alissa White-Gluz[edit]

Fails WP:MUSIC. No individual notability (and, in fact, the band seems to fail as well). Disputed prod (though those for the band, their one album and the guy are still up). SummerPhD (talk) 21:24, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and Redirect I think that's the best way to focus the article's creator on including this material and making the parent article the best it can be... I haven't looked to see whether the band is notable, but this band member certainly isn't. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the info. of Alissa White-Gluz should stay active, because she gives a sort of power to the band by her voice, her death growls, her look. SOme people is searching information of Alissa and they cannot found hers... She is a notable female metal singer........not for all, but for some fans of her music. Please, don't delete Alissa's section, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OmegaXmutantX (talk • contribs) 22:54, 13 November 2008

Hi. I understand your concern. First of all please type ~~~~ after you leave comments so people can identify who they're from. The issue is that there is already an article about the band. So that's the best place to include the information. The second issue is whether even the band is notable. Not every band on Myspace is included. So you can help thet effort by adding references to newspaper coverage of the band. Unless there is newspaper and/ or magazine coverage of Alissa as a notable (meaning covered by the mainstream media) artist on her own, she doesn't get an article of her own. Does that make sense? It's nothing personal. It's just the best way to keep the encyclopedia organized. Can you imagine if every band had an article, and then every album, and then every member of every band? And maybe some of the songs too?ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to The Agonist for failing to meet WP:MUSIC. I agree with the nom, I don't see the band passing either. Esradekan Gibb ^"Talk" 11:51, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to The Agonist and redirect. The band is notable. White-Gluz appears not to be notable outside the context of the band.--Michig (talk) 19:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Also notable for being a Canadian Idol contestant and for the media coverage that implies. See this coverage at MTV News: "Agonist Singer Recalls Painful Time On 'Canadian Idol'; Plus Philip Anselmo & More News That Rules, In Metal File". MTV News. December 7, 2007. Retrieved 2008-11-14. -- Eastmain (talk) 21:28, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 21:28, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 21:28, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge This article purportedly about her is mostly about the band. I presume then there is little verifiable facts about her from reliable sources and this info should be merged to the band article with no prejudice against a break-out article when there is sufficient information to justify it. DoubleBlue (Talk) 16:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect. I think it's WP:MUSIC which clarifies that individual musicians within a band should generally be redirects to the band unless they're independently notable for something other than the band — had she won Canadian Idol, she'd probably merit her own article, but I don't see why simply being a contestant couldn't be adequately addressed by discussing it in the band's article instead of a standalone. Bearcat (talk) 16:52, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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