Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexandru Aldea (footballer) (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:40, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandru Aldea (footballer)[edit]

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This is the second AfD. The first one ended with the resolution to delete, as the player has not played in any pro league. The article was recreated with next-to-the same content. I requested speedy deletion, but the sysop declined as he thought there is a claim that he plays a fully pro league. It is not the case, as I shall restate. As the previous AfD has shown, the League Cup is not considered a fully-pro league, but rather a second-tier friendly game competition. After playing one match for Steaua in this League Cup, Aldea has moved to Fortuna and Ceahlăul, both second-league (not fully pro) clubs. - Andrei (talk) 09:43, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete - My opinion from the first AfD still stands: Since the winners of this "league cup" are not granted entry into the next season's Europa League, I am inclined to consider this more of a friendly competition, particularly given its sporadic timing in terms of the various rounds indicating it is meant to fit in around the pre-existing football calendar in Romania rather than be a true part of it. As such, even though the source in the article shows he played in a match between two fully professional teams, I am not convinced this competition carries that much weight. Maybe in time it will but for now, I do not think this player quite passes WP:NFOOTY let alone GNG.

~~Additionally as he is now in a non-FPL, there is little likelihood of him satisfying NFOOTY in the short term.~~Fenix down (talk) 09:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Looks like he has played in an FPL, although the issues with Soccerway's referencing of the Romanian top flight and the errors in the article make it difficult to1 see this. Fenix down (talk) 10:06, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, indeed it seems so. However, looking for the reports on each of those five matches in the Romanian, Aldea is not mentioned for anything. He only appears in the list of players. I find nothing verifiable that can be written about him.- Andrei (talk) 09:11, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion - You both make a big confusion because he played in a fully professional league, 5 games in the season 2014–15 Liga I for Ceahlăul Piatra Neamț, and after that they relegated in Liga II. - Narcis90 (talk) 10:00, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. Human3015^TALK 14:33, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - He has not played in Liga I, meaning the article meets WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:08, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone 11:42, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - meets NFOOTBALL. Needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 15:28, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - made his professional debut coming on in the 68th minutes in a February 23, 2015 Liga I match against CFR Cluj only 39 days after the previous AFD ended. The article should have been restored at that time. I don't see the sense of deleting now, and I'm not sure why User:Andrei Stroe has not withdrawn this nomination and maintains there is no evidence that he played. Nfitz (talk) 20:35, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What I maintain is that there is no coverage from multiple independent reliable sources that describes the subject in detail. Although I accept Fenix down's argument that he has technically played 5 matches in the first division, I also point out that his evolution in those matches has mostly gone unnoticed.- Andrei (talk) 08:54, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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