Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexander Nevzorov

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep Non admin closure. The Sunshine Man 18:39, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Alexander Nevzorov

Russian politician, member of the state Duma, it says, and founder of a school or horsemanship. Only trouble is, it's unsourced. Also a near orphan (Tambov Gang links to it). We're short of articles on the Russian Federation, certainly, but what's the use of this? I suggest that this article either be properly sourced, and stubbed down to what is sourced, or else deleted. --Tony Sidaway 01:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - As a deputy in Russia's state Duma (equivalent of parliament), he is notable per WP:BIO. Couldn't find very many decent references of him in English; there's however a ton of them in Russian, e.g. [1] ikh (talk) 01:31, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

  That's the trouble, I suppose. We could stub it right down to "he's a deputy in the Duma" but then perhaps we should just have a list article with the names of all the deputies.

  I've listed it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia in the hope of getting more input. --Tony Sidaway 02:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

You'd better post it to Portal:Russia/New article announcements. But as far as I can see, you get enough input here. I would consider unilateral trimming of this article by you highly inappropriate, although I think that third party sources should be used here rather than Nevzorov's own website, and I have changed the article accordingly. Colchicum 11:56, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Keep The article is a summary of the official biography at the school he founded, I changed the link directly to the biography. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 02:47, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Ikh. Nick mallory 02:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep as notable, even if English language sourcing is problematic for now. Ford MF 04:11, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Needs better sources, but the guy is (or used to be) far more notable than the article suggests (e.g. "A staunch monarchist, in 1991 Nevzorov was second only to Boris Yel'tsin in Russian popularity polls." [2]). His program "600 seconds" has a rightful place in the history of Russian media. Stammer 04:56, 2 June 2007 (UTC) He was a pretty rabid anti-Semite too, as far as I remember. Hopefully he has calmed down. Stammer 05:04, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep.He is well known in Russia TV personality and journalist.Biophys 05:00, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per ikh and Stammer. Maxamegalon2000 05:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Funny how people post articles for deletion due to the lack of sources. The guy used to be quite famous in Russia. Nowadays, you won't hear a thing about him, not sure why. KNewman 06:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

  Unfortunately if there are no sources there's nothing reliable to write about him. Unless we get more sources, I'll have to stub this right down to "Russian Deputy" or something. --Tony Sidaway 10:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

So 8 editors (so far) think it should be kept as it is but you think all the content should be removed anyway, despite it having over a dozen sources in English and Russian? Nick mallory 11:27, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.