Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex campain

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. L Faraone 01:15, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alex campain[edit]

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Non-notable DJ. Google turns up nothing but forum posts and self-published material. TKK ^{bark !} 01:58, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not A7 material because of the way it's worded, but everything I could find were self-published press releases and "upload your own music" sites. Does not meet WP:MUSICBIO. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 02:02, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete fails WP:MUSIC spectacularly, entirely sourced to one press release. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:17, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Artist Alex Campain AEK meets WP:MUSIC requirements; Proper research of artist producer was not conducted properly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.223.6.224 (talk) 22:00, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1.Notability for Alex Campain possible reliable source CBS News Money Watch CBS News Money Watch .

2.Artist has produce music that is viable and uploaded by third party beatport among other high notable music website such as amazon,itunes,Juno, spotify and many more. "Let You Go"

3.Artist Alex Campain akn "AEK" is a notable pioneering producer and composer of "free style electronic dance music" of the late 1980's and current within the EDM Culture and community. wikipedia search on google for Alex Campain "Free Style Electronic Dance Music"

4.Google search for Alex Campain AEK news displayed many results within the news and media outlets news on google for Alex Campain — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tianwei124 (talk • contribs) 03:11, 19 June 2013 (UTC) Tianwei124 (talk) 03:17, 19 June 2013 (UTC) — Tianwei124 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

That CBS Moneywatch "article" is just a reprinted press release, not independent coverage, as are all of the "Articles" that Google brings up in your linked search (they're all the same press release, in fact). Beatport, iTunes, et al do not confer notability: just about anybody can offer tracks through those services. The "free style" search also doesn't bring up any relaible sources: more copies of the press release, a couple of forum posts, the article under discussion, the Freestyle music article (in a section that's marked as being unsourced and having no inclusion criteria, not that it would count if it did since Wikipedia can't use itself as a source), a YouTube playlist. You've convinced me that this is a clear delete. — Gwalla | Talk 19:28, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with Gwalla on this, clear delete, seems almost like self advertisement. El3ctr1csheepz (talk) 02:26, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Non-notable artist (still). And, as an aside, most of the article appears to be a copyvio. Yintan 00:03, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Include in wikipedia " strong do not delete" Alex Campain is a notable dj and producer. The CBS News article is a "third party" Independent coverage article and a very reliable media source. Also beatport is not just a "upload yourself music site??" it is for notable artist and producers, and it is not like you stated a "just about anybody can offer tracks through those services" before you state a comment as the one above, please do your "diligent proper research" on site such as beatport and Juno, "NOT just about anybody can offer tracks through those services" I believe you have to be a signed and distrubuted as a certified official artist and composer through a major EDM record label and distribution network; You Gwalla have not done you proper research and have just convince me to include this article. Again obviously you did not DO proper research into beatport,juno and such sites. I believe CBS News reprint, press release or however you want to put it did cover the article among many others as I have investigated and I believe the article got trended to many other independent state journals and chronicles. If CBS news is not a reliable source "independent coverage or not" CBS News found the article important enough to publish on their site and I believe CBS NEWS is one of the most notable and relible media news agencies out there and I trust them. If this does not concur with the notability aspect of the article then what does?. I agree with Tianwei124 include this article. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazminacordova (talk • contribs) 01:13, 22 June 2013 (UTC) — Jazminacordova (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

In regards to the CBS report, it is obviously a redistributed press release. The poor formatting compared to their other articles, and the fact that there is no given author but instead a Press Release Distribution Service tells me that this is no indication of notability. This same exact press release can be found on dozens and dozens of other sites.

Second, Beatport, Juno, and other sites allow anyone to publish music to them. They've even signed up for a program to help independent artists on iTunes move to their marketplace. I find it amusing that you are attacking us for not doing proper research when most of us have.

If "Gwalla not doing proper research" convinced you to keep the article then you really need to read up on WP's various policies regarding sources. A single reprinted press release on a single news site's blog does not confer notability - see User:Gwalla's comment above. --TKK ^{bark !} 02:03, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You may also want to be a little more cautious with your words, as the way you are ripping into User:Gwalla about their research instead of discussing the article itself may be viewed as a personal attack. --TKK ^{bark !} 02:07, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: FWIW, I don't consider it a personal attack and was not offended. — Gwalla | Talk 21:10, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi everyone just wanted to get this out of the way first, reading the above statement, I don't feel Jazminacordova was being rude or "attacking" anyone when reading the above , I think it was more like a point of view on her side more like an "opionion" , so... to say that she is "ripping" into another user, is misinformative. Also I would like to add I'am a "facts person," which means I see factual evidence, I did my own research concerning this topic, and regarding beatport, I was not able to get into their site, I believe their DNS has been down for a couple of days, I was trying to find their policies on artist and producer and their acceptance of artist, but to no avail their servers are down. As soon as they become available I will post their link concerning their acceptance on artist and producers. I was able to find a another website that gave information on beatports policies on accepting artist and reading through their policies on this article, it seems like beatport does NOT allow just anyone to publish music to their site, you have to be An "Established Artist" with provable high volume sales,or a Record label with an established roster of Artists Signed to A record label or Accessing them via one of the distributors such as Tunecore. here is the article on the forum I found I hope this helps beatport policies on accepting artist. With that being established; In regards to CBS News and the artist at hand, being on CBS NEWS as a artist is very notable and does establish credibility. CBS News is not just one of the "run of the mill" news agency, it is one of the most important news media outlet in the world. This for me and I believe for many others establishes this artist notability. I have read various WP's policies in regards to notability,credibility and reliable sources and reading through the wikipedia policies on reliable sources, I definitely consider CBS NEWS a very credible and reliable source and news outlet just like millions of Americans... ok so these are the facts A. the artist is on CBS NEWS "a very credible and reliable source" regardless of the format of the article this for me establishes notability in regard to WP'S policies on reliable sources and independent coverage. B. Not just anyone can be on beatport, as far as the forum states "see link above", but I will confirm later on this talk with the actual beatport link to their policies on artist/producer policy acceptance -Marcos G. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.223.6.224 (talk) 06:22, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Before you go to the trouble of looking up Beatport's policies, be aware that they're irrelevant. None of the criteria in WP:MUSICBIO would depend on a store's policies, since non criterion refers to stores at all. Also, CBS News is a respectable reliable source, but CBS MoneyWatch website is not the CBS news desk: it's a personal finance tips site under the CBSNews.com umbrella, and it reprints press releases. This is not hard to verify: the "article" on that site about Mr. Campain has the byline "By: AB Newswire - Press Release Distribution Service". That's pretty cut-and-dried. — Gwalla | Talk 21:10, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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