Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Kacaniklic

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The result was Delete per WP:SNOW. Mandsford 22:35, 6 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Alex Kacaniklic[edit]

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Deleted by PROD back in 2008, nothing has changed in this player's career since then - he still fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. Giant Snowman 17:12, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 17:14, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He has just signed for Fulham - lots of people will want to read about him Fulhamfb (talk) 19:53, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If people want to read that "Alex Kacaniklic is a player for Fulham" then they can look at the BBC or something. He is not currently notable for Wikipedia. Giant Snowman 19:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He will be when he breaks into the team....just like any other player....no reason to delete Fulhamfb (talk) 19:58, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also the information isn't available anywhere else....BBC wouldn't have anything on him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fulhamfb (talk • contribs) 20:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Saying "he will be famous in the future" is a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. And because his career is so early, and consists of nothing beyond him being a youth player for Fulham, there are many more sources (club profile page, for example) that are currently much more suitable than Wikipedia. Giant Snowman 20:15, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He has no club profile page...you seem to have something against him. You said his carreer was a 'fail'. Fulhamfb (talk) 20:20, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Using the 'crystal ball' arguement is completely irrelevant....I looked him up, I'm sure thousands of Fulham fans wanted to know who he was. He is already famous and is a dead cert to become more famous. Your ideas have no base. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fulhamfb (talk • contribs) 20:28, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If he doesn't even have a club profile page, then surely that shows his lack of notability?! Of course I have nothing against the player, where did I say his career was a "fail"? Giant Snowman 20:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He doesn't have a page because he just joined......you said: he still fails.Fulhamfb (talk) 20:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You could say that the information on people in Wikipedia could be found anywhere else about anyone. For instance, the Queen. There are other websites with information about her, but it doesnt mean she should get deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fulhamfb (talk • contribs) 20:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, I said he fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG - guidelines for notability that footballers must adhere to to be considered notable on Wikipedia. Until he meets these guidelines, he is not worthy of an article. Giant Snowman 20:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete "Also the information isn't available anywhere else" - therefore the article is unsourced and as a biography of a living person should be deleted. If he is famous - where's the evidence? If people want to know more about him, they're not going to get much from this. When he does get known, try again. Peridon (talk) 21:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, he fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. --Carioca (talk) 21:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, he fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. This could have been a CSD surely? Steve-Ho (talk) 22:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated it for CSD but it isn't eligible as it was previously deleted by PROD, not AfD. Giant Snowman 10:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. Argyle 4 Life^talk 07:58, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No evidence to suggest that he passes either Wp:ATHLETE and Wp:GNG. It's also an unsourced BLP, which has been a no-no here since March. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 13:19, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, fails WP:ATH and WP:GNG as mentioned. Recreate if and when he makes his debut in a fully-professional competition or as a full-international. --Jimbo^[online] 13:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:N. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:13, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails both WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:21, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As above. He probably will become notable, but he isn't yet. —Half Price 15:45, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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