Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aleksey Vayner

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Straightforward BLP deletion, this person is known for a single event which was newsworthy at the time--but Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and we don't write biographies based on a single event. A mention at List of internet phenomena should be sufficient.

As a procedural note, I gave less weight to two keep "votes", because one was from an IP user with very few edits, and another was from a user who's a relative newcomer. --Akhilleus (talk) 00:13, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Aleksey Vayner

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Content not suitable for an encyclopedia, subject not notable per WP:Bio, subject is utterly unimportant and therefore this is not encyclopedic. BenBurch 02:42, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --BenBurch 02:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep article is well-sourced, also subject's video was a well-known Internet meme similar to Numa Numa and the Star Wars Kid. The article is not a biography of the individual but concerns his video (in fact all attempts to change it to a bio [possibly by the individual himself] has been reverted), and in any case seems to fit the first condition "The person has been the subject of published1 secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." Tendancer 03:10, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
• Now here's a real WP:BLP issue. Normally, in cases like this, we write about the incident, not the person -- but in this case, his biography is intimately associated with the incident. I don't really know how to act on this one, but this definitely shouldn't be his biographical article. Frankly, I don't think this is encyclopedic content, and internet memetics are dodgy to begin with. Given that the subject of the article apparently does not wish it to exist, I say we should err on the side of removal. However, I'm not sure of this enough to go with a bold recommendation. --Haemo 05:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete The video resume was an internet meme, but we have no real notability guideline for same, with WP:MEME marked as rejected, and this AFD is about a bio article. He does not satisfy WP:BIO, so delete the bio article. If it were moved to an article about the meme, that would be a different AFD. If it is viewed as a WP:BLP issue, then there is recent precedent for deletion. Edison 14:29, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

What do you think then of renaming the article to e.g. "Aleksey Vayner Video Resume". That should address the WP:BIO concerns to make it clear it's not a biography about the individual per se, and it's the only the video resume-caused internet meme that is being discussed/notable. Cheers. Tendancer 16:32, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

• Keep This is a high quality, well sourced article about a real event that was covered by many major media outlets, and was clearly of interest to many people. That some feel that the individual himself is "utterly unimportant" seems irrelevant to me. We all have personal opinions about the importance or unimportance of many different historical events, but as we are constantly reminded: Wikipedia is not a democracy. The fact that this article does not fit (or only fits with difficulty) into existing categories speaks to the need for possible changes to those categories, not to whether the article itself should be deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.100.76.108 (talk • contribs).
• Keep I agree with all else that was said in support of keeping. The article has intrinsic worth for a study of how information disseminates through the modern internet, a study on modern college student psychology, and on Ivy League admissions criteria. Plumsforsale 00:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 10:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.