Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aleksandra Wasowicz
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The result was no consensus. Jayjg (talk) 06:32, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Aleksandra Wasowicz[edit]
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Article about an academic of unknown (probably minor) notability. The only "sources" it has is a list of her own writings, but the publication record is not such that it would automatically mark her as passing WP:PROF. No sourcing about anything biographical: work affiliation, career, etc. Nothing about the reception of her work, no coverage in third-party sources. Was tagged as blp-prod, but unprodded on the (specious) argument that the listing of her works in itself constitutes sourcing. It doesn't. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:32, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: This article was previously nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexandra Voskowitz. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:08, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. — Gongshow Talk 02:30, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. — Gongshow Talk 02:31, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- GS cites are 24, 17, 11, 9, 7, 5 ... h index = 5 so does not pass WP:Prof #1 by today's standards although her publications are rather old and citations may not be fully reflected in GS. Looks like
DeleteKeep if member of Polish Academy of Scientists. Xxanthippe (talk) 11:33, 30 January 2010 (UTC).[reply] - Weak keep, GS is almost totally irrelevant for a Polish archeologist publishing in the 1960s entirely in in other languages than English . That at least one of her books is found in many WorldCat libraries indicates that she is possibly an authority in her subject. DGG ( talk ) 05:29, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keepchanged to weak delete - I've accidentaly seen this entry on the WikiProject Poland page. She wrote at least two books - confirmed by Polish National Library catalogues: [1]. All the books were published by Zakład Narodowy im. Ossolińskich - a major Polish publishing house. For a Polish scientist publishing books in Ossolineum or PWN is an obvious sign of high notability. Obviously apart of these books she had to write many articles... Laforgue (talk) 03:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC) She was also a member of Polish Academy of Science ([2] - here one can find also some simple information about her accademic career), to which belong only the most important professors. I'll try to find some additional details about her in the libraries, but in a two or three weeks (we have now winter vacations in Poland). Laforgue (talk) 03:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]- Question: can you verify that she is in fact an elected member of the Academy, in a sense comparable to being a member of the Royal Society or the French Academy of Sciences (i.e. an honorary title conferred to academics of leading status), or just a researcher employed in a research institute run by the Academy? As for book production, I would disagree two books is a sign of notability. For a professor in the humanities, two books is the absolute minimum to give them any professional standing at all, nothing beyond that. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Seems true: Google translates it here. There are only nine hits for archeologist members of the Academy "Członek Polska Akademia Nauk" archeologia site:nauka-polska.pl, and one is deceased. Searching without "Członek Polska Akademia Nauk" reveals 22 professors, and searching without the "prof" reveals ~100 researchers. Abductive (reasoning) 00:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I've consultated this case with the best author of biographical articles on pl-wiki (he has access to many Polish biographival dictonnaries). I thought that finding sources won't be very hard, but the person I've asked for help thinks that "professor Wąsowicz apparently avoids invitations to books like who's-who". Now I'm nearly sure that findning sources won't be possible, though I'll try to find something in one or two weeks... But I still think that her reaserch on the Black Sea Greek colonies is quite important. Laforgue (talk) 12:04, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Question: can you verify that she is in fact an elected member of the Academy, in a sense comparable to being a member of the Royal Society or the French Academy of Sciences (i.e. an honorary title conferred to academics of leading status), or just a researcher employed in a research institute run by the Academy? As for book production, I would disagree two books is a sign of notability. For a professor in the humanities, two books is the absolute minimum to give them any professional standing at all, nothing beyond that. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NW (Talk) 04:15, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. While it is borderline, I'll keep based on Abductive's findings, and the fact that older foreign language sources may be difficult to find online. Wine Guy~Talk 02:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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