Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alan (footballer, born 1999)

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The result was delete. A technical NFOOTY pass, but nothing presented to show that the presumption of GNG that this SNG assumes is justified. Particularly relevant given that it is not even clear if this player is still active. Fenix down (talk) 22:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alan (footballer, born 1999)[edit]

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Subject scraps by on WP:NFOOTY due to one appearance in the Campeonato Carioca, but has no further professional career from that point on, and has no significant coverage whatsoever. BRDude⁷⁰ (talk) 18:25, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep while he does only "scrape" by WP:NFOOTY, he is also only 21. He will very likely just get more fully-pro caps throughout his career. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 19:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Nehme1499. He's 21 and playing in Brazil - chances are he will play in one of the fully pro Brazilian State Leagues again before the end of his career. If, by say 25, he has yet to play another professional game of football, I think a nomination at that stage would be fair enough. Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 20:03, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - young player, notable per NFOOTBALL, with ongoing career. We traditionally give players like this more leeway with GNG and I see no reason to depart from that. Giant Snowman 07:39, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nehme1499: @Davidlofgren1996: @GiantSnowman: I've added this AfD because the player is not even registered at any club after the 2019 campaign. He supposedly left Goytacaz in 2019 (no sources could be found to prove that he's still at the club) and has no further senior career linked to his name. I think he's not even close to make it through WP:GNG, even though 66 minutes of Campeonato Carioca football in a match where both sides were relegated may grant him here through WP:NFOOTY... BRDude⁷⁰ (talk) 15:31, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying - in which case if he has vanished for 2 years that rationale no longer stands, so instead delete as there is longstanding consensus that scraping by on NFOOTBALL with one or two appearances is insufficient when GNG is failed so comprehensively, as is the case here. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 07:50, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Nope. One appearance, 66 minutes, now playing in a non-professional league if he's playing at all (his club were relegated) according to Soccerway, nothing close to WP:GNG coverage. We can always re-create if he pops up again, but there's no reason to kick this can down the road. SportingFlyer T·C 10:06, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It is really high time we started requiring multiple games to show notability just like actors and actresses need multiple appearances. We create articles on people who are already notable, not on people who may in the future become notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:21, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete If the player becomes notable in the future, fine by me. However that's a case of both WP:CRYSTALBALL and WP:TOOSOON. Until such time as we can find actual coverage of him which is not routine sports stuff (haven't found much), deletion (or maybe, just maybe, redirecting to an appropriate page [not the club's page itself, maybe a list of players or a season page] if it exists) is the route to take. Passing NFOOTY only creates a rebuttable presumption of notability, not an automatic "pass and ignore GNG". RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:51, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:NFOOTY. Sonofstar (talk) 16:44, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.