Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alam Saleh

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The result was redirect to Ethnic Identity and the State in Iran. Sandstein 20:44, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alam Saleh[edit]

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I am reviewing this new page and the subject does not meet N:PROF. No named chair or distinguished award etc. The article is based on a couple of book reviews. Mccapra (talk) 07:32, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 10:11, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 10:11, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ There might be an argument for notability under WP:NAUTHOR based on multiple reviews of his work, but to be honest a single book being reviewed in a couple of relevant journals is pretty routine for an academic. I could be persuaded to change my view if there is strong evidence for a pass at NPROF criterion 1, but I'll also note that I am concerned that with whole unreferenced paragraphs, there may be a lot of OR, and much of the language is very puffy, giving a rather promotional tone overall. GirthSummit _(blether) 12:30, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just realised that a chunk of the text was directly copied from Lancaster uni's website. I've cut it and revdelled; I can't see a source for the rest of the text, but it is still very promotional and may have come from an offline source or something I can't find. GirthSummit _(blether) 13:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC) [reply]

Redirect per David below - good call. GirthSummit _(blether) 20:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Ethnic Identity and the State in Iran. With only one book and low citation counts [1], he passes neither WP:PROF nor WP:AUTHOR. But with four published reviews listed in its article, his book is notable enough. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per David Eppstein. The book appears more wiki-notable than the author. XOR'easter (talk) 01:03, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Thanks everyone I agree with the proposal to redirect - should have thought of it myself. Is that sufficient consensus for me to withdraw the nomination or should I let it run to see if there are other views? Mccapra (talk) 03:43, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep His work is reviewed in independent sources, then he is notable according to GNG. He is also a Fellow of Higher Education Academy. Ali Pirhayati (talk) 04:03, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- FHEA is by no means selective enough for WP:PROF#C3. And if one of his works is notable, it doesn't automatically imply that he is notable; see WP:NOTINHERITED and WP:BIO1E. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:07, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am saying his works (his views) are covered by reliable sources, then he is notable. It does not have anything to do with inheritance.Ali Pirhayati (talk) 06:16, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If we had multiple works (books), covered by multiple reliable sources each, I might agree. I just don't think one is enough. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see why he should have multiple works to be notable. I don't think such a presumption exists in the guidelines. There are many people who are notble for only one work. Ali Pirhayati (talk) 06:44, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Ethnic Identity and the State in Iran. Does not pass WP:PROF nor WP:AUTHOR.But maybe a search term hence redirect is better then deletion.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:41, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.