Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agriculture in present-day nations and states

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The result was delete. JForget 00:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agriculture in present-day nations and states[edit]

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Does not add anything that the category system already does. (i.e. Category:Agriculture by country). Please, See Also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Architecture of present-day nations and states, an AfD recently closed as Delete, and in which those articles were named (but without being actually tagged). I am also nominating the following for the same reason:

-- Maashatra11 (talk) 06:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Isn't it an another incarnation of the Outlines of...? Note that these lists are not fully equivalent to categories. Lists contain entries like Economy of the Åland Islands that have no place in the category tree (why Åland Islands are treated as a separate "present-day nation or state" is a different issue). At the very least, rename and cleanup to reflect "by country" approach, rather than the amorphous "nations and states", which invites nationalist warriors. East of Borschov 07:20, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I removed Economy of the Åland Islands from the list, because I don't see how it can be treated as a separate "present-day nation or state". However, I added a category to this redirect (Category:Economy of Finland); and it can now be reached through categories. Maashatra11 (talk) 07:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ per WP:LISTPURP and WP:CLN. I agree that they are redundant but useful with countries like Turkey where the link sends a reader to the Agriculture section of the Economy of Turkey article when there is not a Agriculture in Turkey article. The lists need work though as some of the links are to categories when an article actually exists such as Tourism in Azerbaijan. I agree with the above comment, they should be renamed to "country" as well. --NortyNort (Holla) 13:20, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I added categories to Agriculture in Turkey now so it can be browsed through them. If you think it's a useful list, maybe you should consider creating Architecture of present-day nations and states? It was recently deleted after an AfD. Maashatra11 (talk) 13:24, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - I don't find the lists particularly useful for my own work maybe they are for someone else. They need work and a bunch I saw at Template:Lists by country like Lists of cemeteries by country and List of national parks would seem to meet this AFD criteria too. The template reflects similar categories and lists and is very redundant but I don't think there is a critical reason to delete them.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:38, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - These lists that you mentioned are particularly different from the ones I nominated... There are SEVERAL national parks for each country. ~~The same is NOT true for the list of cemeteries.~~ Maashatra11 (talk) 11:44, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - I have put a deletion up at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lists of cemeteries by country. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 03:57, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        I am not passionate about keeping them but the inclusionist in me doesn't see the need to delete them. --NortyNort (Holla) 18:29, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        You're basically giving this argument to avoid: WP:NOHARM... Maashatra11 (talk) 09:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Were talking about lists, not BLPs or articles on other topics. But you have shown that these specific lists can do no better job than the categories. I myself can't think of a way to better improve the lists other than adding pictures of farms in other countries. So, I agree, delete. I'm going to just going to quickly check to make sure redirects (like the previous Turkey one) are categorized.--NortyNort (Holla) 23:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Architecture of present-day nations and states. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 20:20, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all and projectify as appropriate per my arguments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Architecture of present-day nations and states. Summary: the redlinks are useful for article creation, but we should not straight up duplicate navigational aids better presented as categories in article space. - 2/0 (cont.) 12:45, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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