Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adrian Brooks (Author)

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 14:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Adrian Brooks (author)[edit]

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Non-notable per WP:BIO and WP:CREATIVE, no significant coverage online from WP:Reliable sources. Prod contested by anonymous IP editor. Top Jim (talk) 09:33, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. —Top Jim (talk) 09:36, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Being from a Quaker family of Olympic fencers seems rather unlikely. Edward321 (talk) 10:46, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE THIS COMMENT ABOVE - the family comprises Jews who converted to Quakerism in the 1940s - Deborah Beale—Preceding unsigned comment added by Cal boudicca (talk • contribs)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Makler,_Sr. reference to fencer father and brother

Derek iman (talk) 17:29, 30 October 2010 (UTC) — Derek iman (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Nicoletta adrian brooks credited as author of book in which his photographs are used

Derek iman (talk) 17:33, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a typo: Daniel Nicoletta's photographs illustrated the book that Adrian Brooks wrote—Preceding unsigned comment added by Cal boudicca (talk • contribs)

Paul Makler, Sr does not reference anything. The article does not and seems to have never existed. The book mentioned at Daniel Nicoletta is not an independent source, Brooks is also listed as an author.[1] It does not seem to assert notability, merely that Brooks was part of a non-notable group at one point. Edward321 (talk) 03:25, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There's a slight typo above: I believe the article referred to is Paul Makler, Sr. (note missing period above). However as Edward321 notes, like the Nicoletta article, it's not an independent source and doesn't mention Brooks. Top Jim (talk) 15:27, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The book can be found with a basic web search - Deborah Beale—Preceding unsigned comment added by Cal boudicca (talk • contribs)

Yes, editor Edward321 posted a link to the book (right above your post), so its existence isn't in question. Writing a book doesn't automatically confer notability, however: can you please supply evidence from WP:Reliable sources on how his writing of the book, and any other works, is notable? Reviews, references from other works, etc. would be helpful. Thanks, Top Jim (talk) 00:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article is not a hoax. I have been working with Adrian Brooks for 2 years on his memoirs, and I have observed no impropriety with factual matters in that time - Deborah Beale—Preceding unsigned comment added by Cal boudicca (talk • contribs)

Comment - I have known Adrian since he lived in Inverness, CA, in 1972 or 73, when he was known as Craig Makler. I heard him read his poetry in San Francisco, I saw him perform in Angels of Lights shows, and I have read most if not all of his published books and one unpublished manuscript. He disappeared from my life in the mid-1980s, and I learned a few years ago that he had been living in India but was then living again in San Francisco. I visited with him there this summer. He has had an interesting and artistic life. This article should not be deleted because of some uninformed comments. Bob W. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bob1945 (talk • contribs) — Bob1945 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Comment - Folks, please read the nomination at the top: Non-notable per WP:BIO and WP:CREATIVE, no significant coverage online from WP:Reliable sources. It's about notability, not whether or not the article is a hoax. I'll remove the hoax tag now to help reduce confusion over this. If there's evidence that he's notable per the above criteria, please add it to the article. Thanks, Top Jim (talk) 23:53, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I fail to see what is in dispute about this article. I've known Adrian since the early '80s, seen him in the Angels of Light (a theatre troupe well ahead of their time), read all his novels (Roulette, Glass Arcade and Black and White and Red all over - all still on Amazon.com) and poetry (unpublished), bought his rugs, seen his art and heard about his time with Gangaji. He is a very interesting man - both extremely creative and intelligent - and, born into a privileged background, has had a very interesting life meeting many interesting people and being involved in lots of things. At the forefront of gay culture in San Francisco. Nina Grunfeld (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Grunfeld) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.201.25 (talk) 09:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC) — 78.144.201.25 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Please note that personal endorsements are of no use in WP:Verifying notability. What's in question is not how interesting he is, but his WP:Notability per WP:Notability (people), especially, WP:Notability (people)#Creative professionals. Can you please supply evidence from WP:Reliable sources supporting his notability? Thanks, Top Jim (talk) 10:30, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I have known Adeian Brooks for over 25 years and have worked with him on several projects and found him to be inteligent,sensitive and imaginative, great with detail and basically a fine writer who i think deserves his own wikipedia page, particularly for his notable work in the 1970s and 1980s thankyou RICHARD HESLOP film maker/artist Richardheslop (talk) 22:19, 5 November 2010 (UTC)— Richardheslop (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:08, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: It does not matter if you personally know Mr. Brooks. What you need are sources. Something like a website or journal that talks about Mr. Brooks and his accomplishments. The Eskimo (talk) 07:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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