Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adnan Çolak

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn and no commenters had supported deletion. RL0919 (talk) 13:57, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Adnan Çolak[edit]

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Not notable; falls WP:GNG and ~~WP:NPROF~~ WP:PERPETRATOR. I don't think we should have an article about a criminal who is only known in Turkey. I don't even think he is a well-known criminal in Turkey because his crimes are not notable. He rapied and killed women who are older than 65 years. This has happened in the U.S and other countries although the age is different. Jeffrey Epstein for example is a notable figure but this is definitely nothing comparing to Jeffrey Epstein. SharabSalam (talk) 11:39, 25 October 2019 (UTC) brown text added at 14:12, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. SharabSalam (talk) 11:39, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. SharabSalam (talk) 11:39, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 12:53, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment What does WP:NPROF have to do with him? Surely we'd be looking at WP:PERPETRATOR? The article needs sources, but someone who murdered 11 women and raped 6 others, and whose trial lasted 5 years, would most likely, if those facts are right, have had enough coverage to meet WP:CRIMINAL. RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:34, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My bad. I wanted to say that he is not a well-known criminal. I didn't know what policy I should refer to. Thanks for the links. I don't think that his crimes makes him notable. In the places there has been mass shootings and more people have died yet we don't make articles about criminals. Also most of the sources about him are from Turkish language and even the title of the article is in Turkish language which is odd.--SharabSalam (talk) 14:13, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Given he's Turkish, why on earth is it odd? -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:29, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A serial killer who murdered eleven people. Of course he's notable. Would a serial killer in the UK or US be deleted? Of course they wouldn't. And also, he killed old people so he's not notable? What?! Nonsensical nomination. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:28, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Necrothesp, almost all the sources are in Turkish language. He is only notable in Turkey. His notablity is all about his crimes. Also If we don't create articles about pornsters then why would we create articles about rapists.--SharabSalam (talk) 12:37, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So what? Foreign-language sources are just as valid as English-language sources. So what? This is English-language Wikipedia; that doesn't mean we're not interested in subjects from non-English-speaking countries. Of course it is; he's a criminal. John Reginald Christie isn't notable for anything else either, but nobody would sensibly suggest we wouldn't have an article on him! We do have articles on pornstars; just not on very minor ones. A serial killer who murders eleven people is not a minor criminal! -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:25, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well. Then why don't we have an article about Brenton Harrison Tarrant who who shot 51 people?. The point is that there is nothing about Adnan that is notable except that he had committed crimes killing eleven women. I think if there is a lot of coverage in English news media then that's okay but there are almost no coverage from major English news, only Turkish news and some English websites that anyone can create.--SharabSalam (talk) 15:37, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We do. It's called Christchurch mosque shootings! There is nothing notable about most serial killers except that they committed crimes! That's what they're notable for. Once again, it doesn't need English coverage. It just needs coverage. Sources don't need to be in English. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:21, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I withdraw my nomination . I think I need to open a proposal a new policy to remove biographic articles of people who are notable only committing crimes.--SharabSalam (talk) 19:47, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- For example, Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack the Ripper, Hawley Harvey Crippen, Fred West, Peter Kürten, Sirhan Sirhan... Good luck with that! -- Necrothesp (talk) 22:40, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.