Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adesh Kumar Gupta

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The result was no consensus. There is ample disagreement over whether the sourcing constitutes significant coverage, and the fact that much of it is in Hindi doesn't make it any easier. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:58, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adesh Kumar Gupta[edit]

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A politician who never elected as an MLA or MP. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. Akhiljaxxn (talk) 04:45, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Akhiljaxxn (talk) 04:45, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:56, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete an unelected candidate for public office.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:28, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: As per WP:POLOUTCOMES; he was the mayor of one of the largest municipalities in India ("mayors of cities of at least regional prominence have usually survived AFD"), he is an elected councillor of a "main citywide government of internationally famous metropolitan area" i.e. Delhi and he is the president of a sub-region of one of the 2 major political parties in India. As per WP:BASIC; he has "received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources" in both English and Hindi national newspapers (variant of name in English and Hindi).--Deepak G Goswami (talk) 15:25, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Deepak G Goswami. Not being elected as MLA/MP cannot solely be criteria for deletion -- Ab207 (talk) 18:16, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the Municipal Corporations in Delhi are by far the most insignificant elected body in the city due to the existence of the Legislative Assembly of Delhi and the fact that the city is an Union Territory. Councillors of the MCD can't be considered notable and the mayorial status of the 5 individual municipal corporations are also largely ceremonial. The only criteria which remains is if he has had significant coverage as an individual which he has not, there are only passing mentions in relation to the Bharatiya Janata Party which he is a part of; notability is not inherited by individuals from being part of any organisation however notable the org maybe. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 15:44, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is rather an ill-informed argument. Firstly, you are wrong that there are 5 municipal corporations in Delhi (there's a difference between a "corporation", a "council" and a "cantonment board"; and, the most important difference is that while the representatives of corporations are elected through universal suffrage, members of the councils and cantonment boards are appointed). Secondly, this is your point of view that "municipal corporations in Delhi are by far the most insignificant elected body in the city"; all municipal corporations in India have 2 two types of responsibilities: obligatory and discretionary, and in the case of Delhi the municipal bodies share these responsibilities with the Government of NCT of Delhi. Both—the government and the corporations—have clear demarcation in their roles and if we go by your logic that because Delhi is a union territory the corporations are "insignificant" then the Govt. of Delhi also becomes "insignificant" as its responsibilities are overwhelmingly limited by the federally-owned bodies including Delhi Police, Delhi Development Authority and the Office of the Lieutenant Governor of Delhi. Similarly, the Chief Minister of Delhi also becomes a "ceremonial" position. It is a flawed argument because in the case of Delhi multiple agencies (owned by the Federal Govt., the State Govt., and the Corporations) have their different roles and responsibilities like in many parts of the world where the national capitals are federal territories, be that Washington, D.C. or Islamabad. The mayor of any corporation in Delhi is not some "nominal" person as he or she is the executive head of different agencies in Delhi which provide number of amenities to millions of people. Finally, coming to your second argument that "there are only passing mentions in relation to the Bharatiya Janata Party which he is a part of", you are wrong again unless you consider in-depth coverage of a person from his academic life to progress into political career in different national newspapers as "passing mentions" (Dainik Jagran, Hindustan, Navbharat Times, Aaj Tak, The Indian Express, and so many others!). Moreover, even his actions and statements are covered by multiple news sources which, IMHO, do not belittle the notability of subject as "passing mentions" in relation to the organisation he is a part of.--Deepak G Goswami (talk) 12:12, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Non elected politician. fails WP:POLITICIAN. DMySon 04:45, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Sourcing in article indicates subject passes BASIC/GNG, which makes failing NPOL irrelevant. --Goldsztajn (talk) 03:59, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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