Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adam Cella

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The result was delete. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:12, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cella[edit]

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Fails WP:NMMA. His highest ranking by Fight Matrix was 199th in the world light heavyweight rankings. Subject has also not appeared in a Sherdog top 10 ranking. ♡RAFAEL♡^(talk) 22:48, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Martial arts, United States of America, and Missouri. ♡RAFAEL♡^(talk) 22:48, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

::* Keep. The fight ranking of the subject is not as relevant as the veracity of the citations. It's verifiable that the person is a successful professional mixed martial artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JRed176 (talk • contribs) 18:05, 11 January 2023 (UTC) - WP:SOCKSTRIKE Beccaynr (talk) 23:57, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter at all that information is verifiable; NSPORT requires the subject to have received SIGCOV in secondary independent RS, which has so far been lacking. JoelleJay (talk) 20:51, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JRed176: What citations verify that the subject is "successful"? I verified he failed WP:NMMA based on his inability to meet top the 10 rankings required, and the only two citations in the article that aren't databases, are about him being knocked out cold by Uriah Hall. ♡RAFAEL♡^(talk) 18:25, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is the fight record on the right side not accurate? JRed176 (talk) 18:30, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JRed176: His record is 9 wins and 9 losses, with only one victory in a notable promotion. How is that an indication of being successful? ♡RAFAEL♡^(talk) 18:35, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If he were a baseball player, batting 500 would be stellar. It is not a losing record. Does Wikipedia only grant notability to those with winning records? I don't believe so and there was the one notable victory. I wouldn't say the subject is unsuccessful overall. What is more, it is not a final record. He is still competing. JRed176 (talk) 18:38, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Success is not a criteria for WP articles. As a new user you might want to check WP:GNG, WP:N, and WP:RS to learn more about how WP works. Papaursa (talk) 01:13, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete He fails to meet the notability criteria for MMA fighters and lacks the significant independent coverage to meet WP:GNG. Databases do not show notability. Since he hasn't fought since 2018, I strongly doubt he's still active and is even more unlikely to improve his MMA notability status. Papaursa (talk) 04:47, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:NMMA and WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:43, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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