Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Acorn, Oakland, California

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. While there may be good arguments to merge this, merge can be decided outside of AfD space through a merge proposal. The only argument for deletion is issued by the nominator, a now confirmed sockpuppet. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 19:48, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Acorn, Oakland, California[edit]

Does not assert its notability. It is an irrelevant public housing project. Merge any useful information into West Oakland, Oakland, California which really is a neighborhood. Icamepica (talk) 07:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete-per above —Preceding unsigned comment added by Icamepica (talk • contribs) 07:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note re. sockpuppetry - nominator is a ~~suspected~~ confirmed sockpuppet of a disruptive editor that was deleting sourced material from Oakland, California-related articles. See [[1]], WP:AN/I#Boomgaylove II. This is clearly sourceable,[2] and notable among other things for being one of the first integrated housing projects in Oakland and the location of the murder of Huey P. Newton, founder of the Black Panthers. This nomination should be speedily closed without prejudice, and nominated if at all once we have a handle on the user:boomgaylove sockpuppet situation. Wikidemo (talk) 08:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Huey Newton claim is unreferenced, also where someone died does not make that place notable. There is only one source. This is not a neighborhood. Regardless of the sockpuppet accusations this nomination is in good faith and was suggested to me by another editor.Icamepica (talk) 08:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I referenced it. Who? Wikidemo (talk) 08:28, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He's referring to my comment [3] from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cypress Village, Oakland, California, I guess. cab (talk) 14:01, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I agree with the general sentiment that it should probably be merged somewhere but that this outcome would be better as a calm group editing decision instead of an edict from a problematic AfD. Wikidemo (talk) 04:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Notability is clear, article should be expanded, but that can happen in time. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ^{(talk / cont)} 09:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy close until investigation is concluded. No discrimination against renomination later. 23skidoo (talk) 16:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this indicates that the house where Newton died on 1454 9th Street was near but not actually part of the Acorn Housing Project, but since this is an article about the neighborhood, that would seem to apply. Mandsford (talk) 18:03, 26 February 2008 (UTC). I would add that there are about 40 articles about neighborhoods in Oakland, California, which is its own category. Most of these, not surprisingly, are stubs. My preference would be that these should be consolidated into one article called "Neighborhoods of Oakland, California", but it appears that there's a policy in favor of keeping separate articles. I'd add that the Acorn project seems to have more people than a lot of small towns that have articles. Mandsford (talk) 18:08, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with West Oakland article; Acorn, Dogtown, Ghost Town, Cypress, etc., are all too microscopic in size and in stature to be considered real "neighborhoods". West Oakland is a recognized division of the city. All of these micro-articles and stubs should be subsumed into the West Oakland article. This would also automatically avoid a lot of the disputes over marginal material being included in these articles. +ILike2BeAnonymous (talk) 18:16, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy close per 23skidoo. Wait for the socks to be blocked, then we can start a serious discussion. Bash Kash (talk) 03:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Mandsford and SPEEDY CLOSE due to the confirmed sockpuppet infestation regarding this and related nominations. (jarbarf) (talk) 20:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.